Camaro Allocation vs. mass production

[OverAnxious]

Sorry, CF4 - Camaro/Firebird/4th Generation = 1993 Camaro/Firebird, old term from working at GM

back to my original question - At what point will this vehicle be widely availiable to anyone who walks into a dealer to place an order?
When will dealers be able to order them as they wish for stock?

[Devryn]

Originally Posted by OverAnxious

Sorry, CF4 - Camaro/Firebird/4th Generation = 1993 Camaro/Firebird, old term from working at GM

back to my original question - At what point will this vehicle be widely availiable to anyone who walks into a dealer to place an order?
When will dealers be able to order them as they wish for stock?

I think that's a questions without an answer. The economy is terrible, and GM doesn't really know how desirable a Camaro is going to be to people who don't want to buy a new car at all.

[OverAnxious]

Originally Posted by Devryn

I think that's a questions without an answer. The economy is terrible, and GM doesn't really know how desirable a Camaro is going to be to people who don't want to buy a new car at all.

There is an answer. GM has a plan in place of some kind. I'm looking for what that may be in this case.
Are they only allowing certain allocations based on feeling out the market? Is it because they plan to produce only a limited number for a few months then ramp up production?

I don't buy the economy thing, GM has spent millions to bring this car to market already.

[EDs02]

Yea they have spent millions to get this Camaro to market and already no blue color and no z28 whats next? I think 6 to 8 months of mark ups when they start to hit dealers in small amounts. And yes you would think GM would be kicking these out like MUSTANGs only time will tell . The Dodge dealer here in Palm Coast FL HAS 2 R/T Challengers for 10 k each over sticker think he,s going to buy more i dont.

[Fourth Camaro]

Originally Posted by EDs02

Yea they have spent millions to get this Camaro to market and already no blue color and no z28 whats next? I think 6 to 8 months of mark ups when they start to hit dealers in small amounts. And yes you would think GM would be kicking these out like MUSTANGs only time will tell . The Dodge dealer here in Palm Coast FL HAS 2 R/T Challengers for 10 k each over sticker think he,s going to buy more i dont.

I've driven an RT Challenger. People are stupid if they pay list for that car.

[Devryn]

Originally Posted by OverAnxious

There is an answer. GM has a plan in place of some kind. I'm looking for what that may be in this case.
Are they only allowing certain allocations based on feeling out the market? Is it because they plan to produce only a limited number for a few months then ramp up production?

I don't buy the economy thing, GM has spent millions to bring this car to market already.

They can't afford to spend millions more if this car flops or isn't profitable. They're going to ramp up production based on demand. It's not like 2 years ago, when they could introduce a new truck and mass produce it immediately because they knew it would sell.

People simply aren't buying new cars. New cars that are being purchased are mostly for necessity, and most "necessity" dictates a four door economy car of some kind. Not a two door sports coupe.

I'm sorry to say this Joe, but it's just plane (I tried to think of another word, because I don't want to actually start a fight or arguement), but it's plane ignorant to "not buy" the economy "thing."

Hell, 1 year ago, if OPEC had announced another market manipulator of cutting production by 2 million barrels a day, oil prices would have skyrocketted 20% or more. Instead, since the announcement, oil prices overall are still DOWN from the date of announcement. Why? Economy.

[OctaneZ28]

AFAIK, allocations will be in place for the entire first model year.
Allocations are in place because of the initial ramp-up in production, so the first model year will not be at full production.

They pretty much already are available to anyone who walks into a dealer and wants to order one.
Over 3,000 orders have been placed, but that certainly is not more than the total allocations out there.

But I see what you mean.

I would say that a few months before the start of the second model year (guessing very early 2010), dealers will be able to order them for dealer stock and/or any type of sold order.

[Devryn]

Here's what I mean...Anyone seen this:
http://jalopnik.com/5067681/pontiac-...ent-generation

And that's a useful four door family car.

[SS-Eric]

Octane, stock orders will be available after "sold" allocations are picked up and production begins. So I am guessing we will see them later part of May into June. I beleive I heard on the Pre-Order IDl a production number of 40,000 units per year. GM has all intention of the Camaro taking over the pony car in sales volume!!!! The reason for this Pre-Order 2 months before the final order is picked up is to make sure that GM has all of their i's dotted and t's crossed to prevent production constraints.

[AJC]

It's an American car and GM needs to sell the Camaro and a lot of them. At first they will be somewhat hard to find but after six months you will have your pick at the right price. If you have to be one of the first & pay MSRP, that's a couple of grand out the window. I will wait