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View Poll Results: What would you do when offered an 1982 V6 Auto Firebird w/ 55Kmi for $3500
Piss yourself laughing and walk away shaking your head. 10 66.67%
Storm out after giving the seller a piece of your mind. 1 6.67%
Steal it. 3 20.00%
Buy it anyway knowing that it's worth much less. 1 6.67%
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post #1 of 46 Old 11-30-2009, 10:35 AM Thread Starter
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2.8L V6: Can fun be had with one of these?

Just a curious question. I'm pondering a V8 swap on a local "little old granny" V6 Firebird ('82, 55K on the body, engine, trans, everything) but the fact that the car is as cherry as it is makes me wonder if I should cruise it and wait for a crate.

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I'd say no fun at all, but it would depend on what you're used to.

In 82, I believe it'd be a 2.8 (2.3 is Ford's 4 cylinder) with around 100hp.

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I'd say no fun at all, but it would depend on what you're used to.

In 82, I believe it'd be a 2.8 (2.3 is Ford's 4 cylinder) with around 100hp.
Well, I've got a really heavy (4K+) Ford Explorer undergoing rehab (master cylinder and front bearings.. prolly more down the road). 4.0L rated to 215/240lbft. Quick, but eh.. thinking I might use this in the mean time.

First car was an LQ1 Monte Z34: 215/220. So I'm probably not going to miss much since both were on the heavy side (monte went lemon early too) when compared to the 82 which was feather weight. My concern was that with the engine having only 54,8XX on it I didn't want to pitch it if I couldn't do something with it.

I'll probably plunk down some cash for an Iron block 350 crate rated 250ish. Trans is original and non-leaky (55,8XX as well). Don't want to put out the rear just yet.

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If it's 82 its probably a real low compression ratio (as in low 8 to high 7 IIRC). I'd go to a salvage yard and find a turbo or two and boost it on the cheap till you get the money for a crate. It should be able to handle at least 8 PSI for a little while or turn up the boost and have a blast before it goes pop then get a new engine.

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Just a curious question. I'm pondering a V8 swap on a local "little old granny" V6 Firebird ('82, 55K on the body, engine, trans, everything) but the fact that the car is as cherry as it is makes me wonder if I should cruise it and wait for a crate.
No, my 305 I had was barely fun, so I cant imagine a v6 being much fun at all.

but on the turbo comment, id say go with that.

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No point in turbo, it's still going to sound like crap. Drop in a 350 and call it a day.
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Well, all things considered, if the deal goes through, I'll probably will wait it out for a 350 crate from Jegs or whatnot. Since I have no need to worry about A/C compressors and the like (only amenities being heat and AM/FM radio) it should be a straight forward weekend install.

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No point in turbo, it's still going to sound like crap. Drop in a 350 and call it a day.
buick gnx doesnt sound like crap and its a turbo v6.

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buick gnx doesnt sound like crap and its a turbo v6.
Yeah, problem is trying to find the whole exhaust, intercooler, and wastegate system for one. SBC, exhaust, and Sway/Spring swap.

Carb'd only SBC. Easy to tune on the cheap. Nice hold over until I can get a 5th gen. Pretty much decided here. *checks inbox*

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EDIT: Oh god.. if this holds true for an LC1.. (most guys were doing it with the 3.1 MPFI): http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/v6...-out-take.html

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Just a curious question. I'm pondering a V8 swap on a local "little old granny" V6 Firebird ('82, 55K on the body, engine, trans, everything) but the fact that the car is as cherry as it is makes me wonder if I should cruise it and wait for a crate.
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