It's worth it. That's a reasonable price. Certainly try to bargain with him though... offer him... $13,000. If he laughs, $13,500. I do this everytime a buy a car. I don't care how insulting it is, it saves me a buttload of money! I just bought a '02 Mazda Protege, mint, dealer wanted $9,980, I got them down to $4,700!!! I would bet that you could drive it away $16,000. Definitley to to get him down, but if he is unwilling to budge, $17k really isn't a bad deal. It's a rare car!