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post #1 of 21 Old 05-18-2006, 08:40 AM Thread Starter
 
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Autoextremist: Camaro biz case hinges on V6 model

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GM, Chevrolet. Journalists were given yet another preview of the Camaro concept this week, but GM would not confirm that the project is a "go." We can confirm, however, that the make-or-break business case for the new Camaro won't be the 400HP V-8, six-speed version, because GM can do that car in its sleep and make it great - and that package is as close to being a "no-brainer" as you can possibly get. The real issue is the V-6 version, a car that must be worthy of the Camaro nameplate, first of all, and be premium in every respect - while delivering an outstanding performance/value equation vis-a-vis the competition. This is the car that GM must get right if the Camaro is going to be a success in the market. We'll stick by what we said immediately after the Detroit auto show, however: The Camaro is a done deal - GM is just making sure that it's every bit as good as people want it to be. And we'll probably get official confirmation of its production timetable by the fall.
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That makes sense considering how well the v6 cars sold over the v8 cars before.

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That's certainly the case with the Mustang..the V6 sales are more profitable per car, which in effect subsidizes the V8 version and allows them to do all the special editions, etc.
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Camaro sales by engine the last 5 years of production:
1998: V8 - 36%, V6 - 64%
1999: V8 - 41%, V6 - 59%
2000: V8 - 45%, V6 - 55%
2001: V8 - 44%, V6 - 56%
2002: V8 - 59%, V6 - 41%

4th Gen surely didn't hinge on the V6 sales, but it also didn't sell a crapload like the 5th Gen will. Also it wasn't marketed right.

5th Gen has alot going for it, and there will be some great marketing to back up the already amazing product.

Whoever thinks this thing won't hit the 100K per year sales mark is inhaling too many fumes!.

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In the end not selling enough V6 cars did the F-body in. If you will look at the raw numbers you will see they sold about the same amt of V8's every year.

Problem was the V6 cars were too blaa, too vanilla and nobody cared. The 5th gen V6 needs to be stylish (they have that covered) and loaded with cool stuff. It has to be a gotta-have package.

The 4th gen, in the end, was just a motor in a box...a sleek box at that but w/o the big motor it was a pretty ho-hum car to the average buyer looking for a coupe.
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the camaro has to have a solid v-6 for them to sell in numbers let's say a v-6 with about 230 horse power because the 4th gen had the 3.8 that put out about 200 horse power and the camaro has to always to out perform the mustangfor about the same price
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the camaro has to have a solid v-6 for them to sell in numbers let's say a v-6 with about 230 horse power because the 4th gen had the 3.8 that put out about 200 horse power and the camaro has to always to out perform the mustangfor about the same price
Out performing the Mustang has never really been a problem.
Pricing has hurt GM before IMO, hopefully it is priced very close to the Mustang...

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but the mustang has a 200 horse v-6 and I agree the priceing has to be there
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I think there's a good chance the V6 will have more than 230hp...if they go with the OHC HFV6 you're looking at near 300hp or more....
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300 horses might be a little expensive to insure for the younger buyers which could hurt sales
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