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post #1 of 10 Old 06-23-2006, 12:40 PM Thread Starter
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SS427 5th gen

I saw a thread on Team Camaro today. One guy mentioned calling the 7.0l version of the Camaro the SS427 - I like that

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post #2 of 10 Old 06-23-2006, 12:42 PM
 
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It should be called Z28 or nothing!!
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It should be called Z28 or nothing!!
I thought so too, but I like SS427


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it is going to be a 427 it is an SS.
C6 = 366 cu. in
Z06 = 427 cu. in.

Z28 = 366 cu. in.
SS = 427 cu. in.

Back in 60's
Z28 = 302 cu. in
SS = 350, 396, 427 Cu. in.


Of couse I am biased.


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I like the ss nameplate myself!
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it is going to be a 427 it is an SS.
C6 = 366 cu. in
Z06 = 427 cu. in.

Z28 = 366 cu. in.
SS = 427 cu. in.

Back in 60's
Z28 = 302 cu. in
SS = 350, 396, 427 Cu. in.


Of couse I am biased.

I still see the Z28 nameplate being the more powerful version of the SS for some reason.

There wasn't a 427 SS Camaro

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I was lumping in the Berger, Baldwin and Nickey.
Although the COPO's were big blocks and I think they may have been SS's?

On my insurance card the SS is listed as a Z28. So I guess you could say they were/are all Z/28's with SS options.

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I guess technically the 69 COPO cars began life as BBC SS cars.

The 4th Gen SS Camaros were all Z28s to start. I think even a few years were called both Z28 and SS, maybe the days when SLP did the conversions for GM off site?

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A little history...

The Super Sport name goes back quite a ways with Chevrolet, At least 64 and maybe back to 61 or 62. It wasn't platform specific and it indicated that the car in question had a performance option of some sort - usually a better engine.

For the 1st Gen Camaro, the SS came with two possible engines in a variety of flavors. There was the 295 hp 350 (first year for the venerable 350, and at the time, the only place you could get one was a Camaro), and later on in 67 there were 325 hp, 350 hp, and 375 hp 396 big blocks. There were a few factory aluminum head variants on the big blocks, but they were exceedingly rare and prone to head gasket leaks.

GM banned putting anything over 400 cubic inches in intermediate or smaller cars, so there was never a SS 427 in a Camaro, but as mentioned above, a few dealerships like Nickey, Berger & Yenko made their own 427's by either switching in a 427 or by ordering a Camaro with one through the back door COPO process. in 69, GM made a few more, including a handful of ZL1's with all aluminum 427s. They still didn't call them SS Camaro's though. You COULD get an SS 427 in a full size Chevy.

The Z/28 name is a bit more interesting. Back in 67, Chevy wanted to get into the Trans Am racing game, but it required a couple of things:

1) the engine displacement had to be under 305 cubic inches (5.0 Litres).
2) the car had to be offered for sale to the general public

Chevy accomplished the first by creating a 302. They either used a destroked 327 or a stroker 283, but either way, the result was a very potent, high reving screamer. It was rated at 290 hp, which was correct... at 4800 RPM. The beauty of the beast showed its face at around 6,000 to 6,500 RPM.

So how could you order a car with a 302 in it? Check the box for option Z/28 when you ordered the car. Thats right, the legendary Z/28 started out life as nothing more than an option code. They only made 602 z/28's in 67, and they came with no outside badging or identification other than the racing stripes. It wasn't until mid year 1968 that the badging ever showed up on the car.

By the mid 70's, performance was no longer a priority at Chevrolet, and the SS and Z/28 names were both dropped for a while. The Z/28 name was brought back in 1977, and it remained the performance option almost continuously from then on. There were a couple of years where it was replaced with IROC but Z/28 never really died as a brand identifier.

In the mid 90's, they created a SS Z/28 which was basically an aftermarket ram air Z/28 that could be ordered through any dealership. After that, I get a little fuzzy... I don't know if the SS became a separate and distinct car or if it remained an option for the Z/28.

The above information has been taken from memory, so if I have a few of the facts off a little bit, please forgive. The general gist of the story is about right, though.

At the end of the day, what do I think they should call a 427 Camaro? I kind of like the idea of calling it a ZL1. Second to that, I would probably vote for SS. While it isn't the case any more, I have always thought of Z/28's as being small block cars and I have always thought of big blocks (396's and 427's) as being SS Options. Since the LS7 is basically a Small Block 427, I guess it could go either way, but in my way of thinking, Chevy should use their most recognizable brand name option (the Z/28) for their standard perfomance options, and use something special for the really cool stuff.

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a good site with Camaro info: http://www.camaro-registry.com/history.htm

1967
The first year of production, the Camaro was available in coupe and convertible body styles with seating for four. Standard seating were front buckets seats and a rear bench, but a front center console (with and without gauges), a front bench seat and a fold-down rear seatback were available as options. The SS (short for Super Sport) package included a special hood and ornamentation, paint stripes, safety-wired fuel cap, SS identification, performance suspension, tires and wheels. Another upgrade was the Rally Sport (RS) package, which included hideaway headlamps operated by electric motors, front valance-mounted parking lamps, rear valance-mounted backup lamps, safety-wired fuel-filler cap, RS identification (unless combined with the SS package), a special black-out grille and other specific trim. Camaros could be ordered with both SS and RS packages, the resulting car having hideaway headlamps, black-out grille and valance mounted parking and backup lamps, but otherwise SS trim, identification and running gear were dominant. About 100 white-on-blue convertibles with this SS/RS trim combination and bearing Indianapolis 500 Pace Car decals were sold to the public. The Z/28 was a mid-year introduction, with production not getting underway until December 29, 1966. Central to the first Z/28 was its 302 cu in. V8 derived by installing a short-stroke crankshaft from a 283 cu in. V8 in a 327 V8 block. This enabled Chevrolet to use the Z/28 for the SCCA's Trans-Am sedan racing series, which at the time had a 305 cu in. (5.0 liter) displacement limit. Available on coupes only, it also included a close-ratio Muncie 4-speed transmission, power-assisted front disc brakes, quick-ratio manual steering, 15x6-inch Rally wheels and red-stripe nylon-chord tires, a heavy-duty cooling system, 3.73:1 final drive, sport suspension and special "runway" hood and deck lid stripes. Also, Z/28s could be ordered with a special plenum air intake and tubular steel exhaust headers. No external badging identified the cars as Z/28s. The RS package could be combined with any Z/28. Other than the Z/28's standard 302, engine choices included the 230 and 250 cu in. inline sixes, two 327 cu in V8s (one 2 bbl, one 4 bbl), the 350 cu in. 4bbl V8 and two 396 big-block V8s. Available transmissions included the synchromesh 3-speed manual, M20 (wide-ratio) and M21 (close-ratio) 4-speed manuals, Powerglide 2-speed automatic and the M40 3-speed Turbo Hydra-matic 400 automatic. Unique to the 1967 models are front vent windows. Also, 1967 Camaros are the only models without side marker lamps. A total of 220,906 1967 Camaros were produced

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