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post #1 of 10 Old 12-02-2008, 09:11 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone on the know...think this could affect the delay of my dream car?
just curious? CANADIANS Response?
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unstable government is raising questions about the future of the car industry future , here in Canada ..just wonderin if any Canadians are following up on the mess.
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unstable government is raising questions about the future of the car industry future , here in Canada ..just wonderin if any Canadians are following up on the mess.
There should be a bit more info out on this in the next day or so...

In a nutshell, Canada had a federal election 7 weeks ago and Stephen Harper's conservative gov't was returned, but without a majority in the House of Commons. The 3 other parties (with wildly opposite philosophies) look to have entered into an agreement to outvote the Conservatives and form a gov't.

There are some interesting constitutional scenarios that could play out, but the bottom line is that our gov't may be hamstrung for a while until all this gets sorted out. This could affect GM in Canada, as the expectation is that the Canadian gov't would provide funds to assist GM Canada, in proportion to a U.S. loan, given the number of operations here (specifally in Ontario). If our gov't is in limbo, it wouldn't be able to vote on or pass this legislation.

This makes for a good read:

http://www.torontosun.com/comment/20...04566-sun.html

"Stooges stage coup

Professor, socialist and separatist make their foolish move

By GREG WESTON

Last Updated: 2nd December 2008, 4:29am

The federal opposition parties have apparently decided the best way to deal with the world's worst economic crisis in decades is to create a political disaster of equal proportion.

Yesterday, the three leaders who lost the last election inked a devil's deal to save the economy by seizing control of the government from Stephen Harper and the Conservatives.

If all goes to plan, Mr. Bean will replace Mr. Mean as prime minister as early as next week, maintained in power by an unholy alliance of the Three Stooges.

For the next six months, Stephane Dion would hop into bed with NDP boss Jack Layton and separatist leader Gilles Duceppe in return for the Liberals' hapless honcho getting the keys to 24 Sussex Dr. and a bulletproof limo.

Next May, Dion would be replaced for another two years by whomever wins the Liberal leadership.

The fun is just beginning.

The opposition parties' entire justification for this coalition of the witless is the supposed need to rush through new federal spending measures to stimulate the economy.

Finance Minister Jim Flaherty has already moved up the date for the next federal budget from late February to the last week of January.

That would give the Canadian government a chance to see what the new U.S. administration in Washington has in mind for the auto sector and the rest of the U.S. economy after Barack Obama is sworn in as president on Jan. 20.

But the coalition claims that's not fast enough to start throwing around other people's money on this side of the border.

In the words of the coalition's communique yesterday, a new coalition government is required immediately to "effectively, prudently and promptly address these critical economic times."

The genius of speeding aid into the economy by changing governments is about what we should expect from a professor, a socialist and a separatist.

If the Conservatives are going to be voted down, it will likely be in a confidence motion in the Commons next Monday evening.

That would send Harper to see the Governor General the next day, asking her to dissolve Parliament and send the country to the polls again.

While the GG already has a letter from the coalition asking that it be given a chance to govern, Michaelle Jean's decision will be constitutionally controversial, and could take days.

If the GG rules in favour of a coalition, she would insist that the three opposition parties test their deal with a confidence vote in the Commons.

That could take days, especially since the Conservatives will do everything possible to thwart it.

Now we are into the week before Christmas.

If the vote passes, as it would, the country may well not begin the process of changing governments until the New Year.

The transition from the Martin Liberal government to the Harper administration in 2006 took almost three weeks, and even then it was rushed.

The new coalition government would then have to decide on a new cabinet, and swear in 24 new ministers, including six from the New Democrats.

Until that moment, no one from the new coalition government will be allowed to see any confidential documents, much less the mountain of briefings needed to begin drafting a federal budget.

ZERO EXPERIENCE

All of the new NDP ministers and many of the Liberals appointed to cabinet would have zero experience running a government department, much less mastering their portfolios.

That usually takes months, even for junior portfolios.

The coalition would be lucky to have a budget worth anything before March.

Heck, by the time the coalition gets its act together and starts cutting cheques, it may well be time for Dion to make way for the new Liberal leader.

Let us pray that if the government falls next week, the Governor General will tell Curly, Larry and Moe to give their heads a slap."

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I'm following this mess your Camaro will be fine.

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post #6 of 10 Old 12-03-2008, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
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For the positive info guys....hate to miss out on a dream car
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I'm following this mess your Camaro will be fine.
Yeah... I just have a gut feeling that although we are wading into unknown waters on this from a constitutional viewpoint, cooler heads will prevail and having to deal with the uncertainty of who could be running the country will be avoided.
Prime Minister Harper will be addressing the nation tonight at 7:00 PM EST and he fhas the power to ask our Governor-General to "prorogue" parliament, or end the current session before the crucual vote which would take place on Monday.
This would allow Harper to stay in power and begin a new session of parliament in January - with a new budget. Parliament is traditionall on recess during this period anyway with the holidays.

In the meantime, the premier of Ontario, Dalton McGuinty, has stated his desire for the federal government to continue working on its plans with Ontario to come up with a plan to assist the auto industry...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/can...-3bug0LzlqsJuA

"McGuinty hopes feds will work on auto help if Harper prorogues Parliament
2 hours ago

TORONTO Premier Dalton McGuinty wants the federal government to keep working with Ontario on financial help for the auto sector, even if Parliament is prorogued.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper is expected to ask the Governor General to end the session of Parliament that began just 10 days ago because of the Liberal-NDP coalition trying to topple his minority government.

McGuinty says he believes Harper would still have the power to make a financial commitment to help the struggling auto industry, whether Parliament is sitting or not.

The premier says there are some things that just can't wait, and "the auto sector may be firmly in that camp."

McGuinty says he's eager to have things resolved on Parliament Hill sooner rather than later to protect 400,000 auto sector jobs in Ontario.

He wonders why the Detroit 3 are asking for $9 billion more from Washington than the $25 billion first requested, and says he expects to know how much their Canadian operations want by the end of the week.

"You've got to wonder why the disparity," McGuinty said Wednesday."


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The big 3 must present the Provincal and Federal Governments their future plans by this Friday. The two governments will go over the info and work out their response along the same lines as the American Government does. Its now a waiting game. We here in Oshawa are feeling your pain.

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What delay?
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unstable government is raising questions about the future of the car industry future , here in Canada ..just wonderin if any Canadians are following up on the mess.
Ohh OK, I am not very good with Canadian Anacronyms.

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