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Toyota Wants 'Reliable' Rep Back

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post #2 of 7 Old 02-18-2008, 07:46 PM
 
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That title is deceiving. Toyota never lost its rep as reliable in my opinion.

Just because some magazine wants to test it before saying it is reliable, doesn't mean it isn't reliable. It just means they haven't been doing what they should have been doing from the get go.

I have a 2005 Toyota with a 100,000 mile BUMPER TO BUMPER warranty that I have never used. It has never been to the dealer and I have never spent a dime on mechanical parts, diagnosing, repair etc....aside from oil changes.

My view of Toyota...Honda too...: When my wife and I were looking for her first car...I told her she could have anything she wants....as long as it was a Honda or Toyota.
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With the major recalls Toyota has had recently, they are smart to be proactive...

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That title is deceiving. Toyota never lost its rep as reliable in my opinion.

Just because some magazine wants to test it before saying it is reliable, doesn't mean it isn't reliable. It just means they haven't been doing what they should have been doing from the get go.

I have a 2005 Toyota with a 100,000 mile BUMPER TO BUMPER warranty that I have never used. It has never been to the dealer and I have never spent a dime on mechanical parts, diagnosing, repair etc....aside from oil changes.

My view of Toyota...Honda too...: When my wife and I were looking for her first car...I told her she could have anything she wants....as long as it was a Honda or Toyota.
I, too, have a Toyota that I haven't used the warranty on. On the other hand, the car has a service plan involved, so I'm not paying for that part of the maintenance, either. But I've also had domestic cars I haven't used the warranty on, either. In fact, I bought a used Pontiac Phoenix with a powertrain warranty. The day it expired, I turned around and drove to a car race in Ohio, much of it over back roads. The only problem I had was that I thoroughly wore the tires out having fun on country two lane roads, and one of the front tires went flat a week after I returned.

Simply, some people act if Toyota, and only Toyota can produce a reliable car, and that simply isn't true. Recently, I was utterly galled at a Toyota dealer where I currently am on business, in Pensacola. After a brief drive of another Toyota model, when I mentioned that other vehicles I had looked at included a Ford, he mentioned the old "fix or repair daily" joke. This, coming from someone who spoke with a foreign, probably Central American accent, was about as much as I could stand despite my liking Fords only so much (I'd still like to see them do better than Toyota, though). He was lucky I didn't backhand him into the latter part of the next week. Some Toyota sales people act as if once you drive a Toyota, the decision to buy it is a default.

Toyota's real problem is that without their reliable reputation, there's really not all that much there. Most American cars have more style, most other Japanese cars are, category for category, more fun to drive, never mind the difference in character between a Camry and a VW Passat. So reliability is pretty much what they have.

With the latest Accord, Honda has shown that it is in danger of losing its way, as far as I'm concerned, as well.

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I guess you have not heard about all the recalls for many things recently..

the lawsuit from buyers for the sludge in the engine and Toyota blaming the consumer..guess who lied and guess who won?

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/17/o...s-action-suit/

the Prius and its failures? I can give you more problems with the car but here are just three.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...s_stalls4.html

http://priuschat.com/forums/prius-ma...005-prius.html

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/new...ottle-failure/


The no stopping/ surging that the Lexus and Toyotas are having that the Prius is having along with brake function problems.. Along with this.


http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/13417

Why is it Lawsuits? See the problem here..class action lawsuits? No recalls? Someone is hiding something.....


or the Siennas tailgates not staying open..

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2..._sienna_m.html

and the worse of them is the Tundras camshafts breaking apart.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...9-tundra_N.htm

The driveshaft,

http://blogs.motortrend.com/6224290/...sue/index.html


the flexing bed the tailgate that warps (along with the Tacomas) ..Truck of the year with these problems??


http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...res-i-am-club/ 51pages of problems

and the FJ cruisers frame cracking and window cracking and major tire problems..
window

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0607/431141.html
frame
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...body-rips.html
tires
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...oyota_fj_.html



.Its not just the CR problem but there are problems with Toyota that have surfaced in the last 2 years that they have been covering or sweeping under the rug with everything BUT recalls..to the point that they blame the consumer??? And Lawsuits have to be filed in more than one case?
they have been "extending" warranties for most of these problems..
Toyota has flaws like every car maker out there. and more so since it has become a bigger player in the world market. Or that people are seeing through the smoke and mirrors that was the "reliable" reputation they built up for the last 15 years. Well that rep is cracking and the competition is catching and passing them..
Sure bet ya if it was a GM Ford or Mopar product it would of been on the 5 o'clock news about the problem. But have you heard about any of these links I posted? No? Wonder why....
Toyota has it shares of problems right up there with GM Ford and Mopar..And along with the 3 domestics they do make reliable well built cars along with some bad mistakes.

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toyota wants its reliability rating back? Really??? I could care less WTF toyota wants.

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post #7 of 7 Old 02-19-2008, 06:39 AM
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Toyota Wants 'Reliable' Rep Back

That's too **** bad for Toyota. I believe GM has been bringing their quality up many notches the last several years. It's not going to be an easy gimme for them any more.
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