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Jalopnik: 2009 G8 GXP First Drive

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If I were to tell you GM is the new BMW youíd probably laugh at me. But driving the 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP just a couple of months after the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V and Corvette ZR1, thatís exactly what Iím thinking. Equipped with a 6.3-liter, LS3 V8 making 415 HP and 415 lb-ft of torque, the G8 GXP isnít just the fastest car Pontiac's ever made, but based on GMís new global rear wheel drive platform (the same one as the new Camaro) and fitted with lower, stiffer suspension and a six-speed manual gearbox it strikes the right balance between supercar performance and real world practicality. Think E39 M5, but with a Corvette engine and better steering.

Driving in LA is a strange mix of sitting still in hellish traffic and driving flat out on the best roads in the world. Get on one of the highways at the wrong time and itíll take you three hours to go 30 miles, but hit the canyon roads to the North or East and itís easy to forget that youíre within mere miles of the most populous metropolitan area in the country. The G8 GXP excels in both environments.

In the city itís easy to drive and comfortable, belying the potential of its performance. LAís rutted concrete highways and constant construction fail to upset the suspension or disturb the peace of the quiet interior. Keep it below 3,000 RPM and, with the aid of its anonymous styling, youíll probably avoid speeding tickets too.

But after four days spent trying to keep my temper in check in traffic it was time to head for the hills. More specifically Deer Creek Road in Malibu. Mostly first and second gear hairpins with no guardrails and 500-foot drops into rocky gorges, itís not the kind of place youíd typically want to drive a traditional GM product. But it is the kind of place youíll want to drive this GXP.

This isnít just some overpowered muscle car, the GXP can seriously handle. Throw it into a sharp corner and itíll hold its line tightly without even a hint of understeer; pushing the tail wide on exit with the immense torque before rocketing down the short straights. Nothing in here feels wallowy; instead the overall impression is of lithe performance.

Thatís thanks to lower, stiffer FE3 suspension over the 2008 Pontiac GTís FE2 setup. GM tuned the handling, as is the fashion these days, on the Nurburgring, where the engineering team set an unofficial fastest time of 8 minutes and 30 seconds. Thatís a similar suspension setup to the CTS-V, with which the GXP also shares its Brembo front brake calipers and Tremec 6060 6-speed.

Of course, the GXP isnít all perfect. It doesnít have SatNav (based on an Aussie-market Holden, the screen violates some pointless US angle regulation and the G8 is too small a production run to reengineer the interior) and the interior isnít up to the standard of contemporary European or Japanese competitors. But with an estimated MSRP of $37,000 (excluding gas guzzler tax and destination, figure $40k to drive it off a lot) weíre prepared to forgive those foibles and instead concentrate on the performance: 0-60 comes in 4.7 seconds and itíll run the quarter in 13.0 seconds at 108mph. All while carrying five people and plenty of their luggage in comfort. Fuel mileage is estimated to be 14 MPG city, 20 highway.

So where does BMW come into this? There was a time when ó before exclusively focusing on overweight, overcomplicated, boring-to-drive, ugly cars ó that it produced vehicles that rightfully deserved the ďUltimate Driving MachineĒ title. They were simple, well-engineered and put driving first. They had solid, well-built black plastic interiors, manual transmissions and pretty big engines driving only the rear wheels. They donít any more. They used to combine practicality with fun in just the right proportions. They donít any more. This Pontiac does. So do the Cadillac CTS, the CTS-V, the G8 GT, the Corvette and the best car in the world, the ZR1. But, unlike even the old BMW, all of the above are, for their classes, very affordable. GM isnít just the new BMW; itís better than that.

This review has to come with a slight disclaimer. The G8 GXP is scheduled to go on-sale in February. At this point, we donít know for certain if GM will still be in business then. Iím not of the opinion that GM and its counterparts are the wisest place to invest our tax money, nor do I entirely believe their apocalyptic forecasts of job losses and economic collapse should we allow them to go out of business. I'm wearing my Save GM T-Shirt for one reason and one reason only: If they're going to keep making cars like this, I really want to keep driving them.














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Great review! I love how they called the ZR1 the best car in the world, and GM the new BMW(although I never really admired BMW). And the G8 is hawt.

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Awesome review. Love the pics.
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Guys that might be the only car that would keep me from getting the Camaro. I have a severe weak spot for 4-door muscle!

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hopefully the public takes notice that GM is building nice cars...that would make an awesome daily driver.

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Guys that might be the only car that would keep me from getting the Camaro. I have a severe weak spot for 4-door muscle!
Here I go again agreeing with you.

I have said the same thing several time about the CTSV, but now their is a RED G8 that I have to park next to almost everyday at work and ****.

Speaking of 4-door muscle.

There is a 1966 Bel-Air wagon at a small used car dealership close to my house.

75,000 original miles.



















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So, three cars that would stop me from buying the Camaro.

I mean, with having kids and friends with kids, it is hard to justify a large purchase that I am not going to use everday. (This goes for the wagon as well)

I would definitely use the G8 or CTSV everyday.




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Seriously, me too on the "only car that would keep me out of a Camaro" notion.

I've said it before... if there was no new Camaro coming, I would probably already own a G8 GT.

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Here I go again agreeing with you.

I have said the same thing several time about the CTSV, but now their is a RED G8 that I have to park next to almost everyday at work and ****.

Speaking of 4-door muscle.

There is a 1966 Bel-Air wagon at a small used car dealership close to my house.

75,000 original miles.



















396/400

So, three cars that would stop me from buying the Camaro.

I mean, with having kids and friends with kids, it is hard to justify a large purchase that I am not going to use everday. (This goes for the wagon as well)

I would definitely use the G8 or CTSV everyday.




The G8 is just HAWT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
How much they asking for the Bel Air?



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