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post #1 of 12 Old 05-13-2012, 03:23 PM Thread Starter
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Just wondering could the next Z-28 be a Turbo or Super charged V6? And why not?
The Six has a better balance

With better Brakes and Supension It could track really good, Just look at what ford has done with there sixxes.

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post #2 of 12 Old 05-13-2012, 04:51 PM
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It's going to run on a fusion reactor delivering electricity to 2 500HP motors, one front and one rear mounted. It will have LCD windows and targa top, with a head-up display, and memory foam seats. The entire car will be constructed of ultra-light weight composites and is estimated to weigh in the neighborhood of 2600lbs, including a 200lb driver and a fuel pellet with enough energy to run for 30 days at max output.
..............but will it have flux capacitor????????
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I think you need to get a life patriotpa,
Just making fun of someone is not cool. With the Gas problems I truely believe that the next Z-28 could be a V6. The orginal Z-28 did not have Chevy's biggest engines in them, they were only 302 CU IN High Reving big power. The V6 is a high reving big power engine and with a turbo could really be a contender in the race.

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Yes you can make alot of HP with a large displacement v-6 and turbo's. Turbo's add alot of underhood heat. Don't know if I'm a huge fan of a V-6. Why not a small displacement v-8? Ford has the track version of the NA 302 so why not a sim. modified car with a 305?

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GM only went with a 302 because they were limited to 5.0L and the small bore 307 was not up to par, not that they thought a smaller motor was better.

I don't see a turbo V6 on a high end offering. It's cheaper to offer a standard V8 that shares most of it's build with every truck engine they have, Ford uses the ecoboost 6ixers in lower scale offerings not their upscale trucks stangs etc. It does not equal their 5.0. I don't see GM doing anything different rather than improve what they have which has been working great so far.

Unless they manufacture a whole new V8 engine a 305 CI engine that is just as large, heavy, and as expensive as a 6.2 wouldn't make much sense. All LS engines reguardless of Cubic inch, are physically the same size. Why give up the cubes and low end torque when the rest of the engine is identical to the bigger ones? GM's 4.8's (the closest thing they have to a 305) aren't exactly the same league as the old school 302's and are way outclassed by their bigger brethren, and I'd wager that the 302's heads and cam and intake would have done alot more on the 350's.

Ford uses smaller CI motors due to the complexity of the DOHC designs, they don't have much choice. Their 6.2L DOHC engine is huge and heavy and wouldn't fit under the hood of a stang so that's why they are using smaller CI but physically larger, heavier, more complex motors. GM is using the KISS method saving money, weight, complexity and using larger CI but just as, if not more efficient, engines. Take the 6.2 Vs 5.0 comparo on MPG. The MPG numbers listed for the 5.0 are using lower (numerically) gears than whats in the SS (not the track pack or 3.55 geared stangs), weigh less and I'd argue are a tad more aero, with the smaller frontal area, yet only gain 1-2 MPG difference. That shows me the lower CI, DOHC with all the fancy doodads arent as efficient as a honking 6.2L that is lighter, smaller physically, cheaper to manufacture, with less crazy stuff on it. If the current Camaro is on the heavy side imagine what 3 more cams, wider block and heads, 4 times the length timing chain and all the other sensors etc for a smaller dohc V8 would do. On the turbo 6 side all the extra plumbing isn't saving that much on weight as well.

The rumored 5.5 is going down cube wise probably for the same reason to make room for all the other high tech gagetry needing to take up room in the block.

If size was a concern I'd go with a boosted six but since it's not, no thanks. Boosted means forged internals (more money), more parts to contend with, more warranty issues, more chance of bad gas screwing something up, which all add up to more cost than a simple V8 that works just as good. I applaud them. So far I see no reason to switch to a DOHC to sacrifice cubes. My 2 cents worth

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Maybe the Z-28 Moniker could just mean "turbo", so you could have a V6 version of the Z-28, and maybe even a 4 cylinder version in the future.

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Please don't mention a 4cyl. I see no use for a 4 cyl engine in a muscle car. It cheapens the entire line.

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Please don't mention a 4cyl. I see no use for a 4 cyl engine in a muscle car. It cheapens the entire line.
Even a turbo 4 that gets the same 300 hp as a V6, and supposedly better gas mileage? I say supposedly, because my WRX was a turbo 4, and my mpg wasn't too much better than my SS. Could be my driving style, though.

I just mentioned the 4 because that's where the trend keeps going. I'm resigned to the fact that they will always be pushing the envelope on ideas and models, but as long as they keep the V8s available, then I'll have somewhere to spend my money.

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Please don't mention a 4cyl. I see no use for a 4 cyl engine in a muscle car. It cheapens the entire line.
I have one RPO for you.... LQ8. And if there's a n/a 4 cylinder under the hood, it's very very unlikely anyone would mistake it as a "muscle car".



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