Lol looks like I started a little bit of a heated battle haha. Anyhow, I bought the car used with 3k miles on it and the tires were ok, but definitely not new. I should have thrown in new tires into the deal, but I was about an hour late of signing the contract and driving home when I thought about it. After buying the car, I did a bunch of mods (headers, exhaust, cai, upper and lower pulley, id850 injectors, 106* t stat, tune, etc) car had 600+ to the wheels (700 or so to the motor).Yes I drive the car hard, but that is what it was made for. I also track the car once a month or so. But even then, I have spoken to a few friends with the zl1 and ss, and even the chevy ss, they all hate the good years. The pirelis I had on my 2012 ss were decent, But I can honestly say, after having the PSS installed on my car yesterday, you can see a difference. Tighter cornering, better hooking, etc. I would recomend them any day. For a non drag radial, I think they are great.