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post #1 of 51 Old 09-14-2011, 05:03 PM Thread Starter
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Onstar Terms Amendment***

not sure if this is a re-post but i just got an e-mail from onstar for a terms amendment, a little pissed
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^^^this link sums it up nicely.....i will be discontinuing my subscription and will be disconnecting my onstar system somehow

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I'll post the info....

Quit whining, most of the complainers carry a mobile phone with GPS on all the time, that doesn't seem to bother you but a service like Onstar (that is second to NONE) is the devil for something like this. Get real


DESCRIPTION OF KEY CHANGES TO THE ONSTAR TERMS AND CONDITIONS
The following set out some of the key changes to the OnStar Terms and Conditions. The headings and section numbers refer to the corresponding headings and sections in the amended Terms and Conditions. All capitalized terms have the same meanings as defined in the amended Terms and Conditions.
OnStar Data Connection Initial Terms
We have added to the Terms and Conditions the provision that if you or we cancel your OnStar Services, we will maintain the two-way connection with your Vehicle and may continue to collect data from your Vehicle, unless you take certain steps to deactivate the Data Connection or fully disable the Equipment.

If you do not want OnStar to maintain a Data Connection to your Vehicle, you can push your blue button or call us at 1.888.4.ONSTAR at any time and request that the Data Connection be deactivated. It may take up to sixty (60) days for OnStar to cancel your account and deactivate the Data Connection to your Vehicle. During this sixty (60) day period, Service may still be available, and data may be collected from your Vehicle.

Upon deactivation, OnStar will no longer be capable of contacting, or obtaining data from, your Vehicle although you will be able to contact OnStar by pressing the blue OnStar button twice. To disable the Vehicle's ability to contact OnStar through the blue OnStar button, you must visit an authorized dealer and ask them to remove the Equipment from your Vehicle.

How Your OnStar Equipment Works, Geographic Limits, and Other Restrictions Section 10
We have added to Section 10 the provision that OnStar is not responsible for your failure to comply with applicable laws while you are driving or using the Equipment or Services.

OnStar Advisors Connect You to Other Service Providers Section 12
We have added to Section 12 the provision that OnStar is not responsible for charges, fees, or taxes arising from services provided by Service Providers, including law enforcement, fire department, or ambulance services, contacted by OnStar.

What If Your Vehicle Is Stolen? Section 17
As with the previous Terms and Conditions, you can elect to deactivate the ability of OnStar to slow down your Vehicle. However, pursuant to the amended Terms and Conditions, if you deactivate this capability, you will not be able to receive any Services at all.

Your Privacy Section 32
The amended Terms and Conditions reflect changes that we have contemporaneously made to our Privacy Statement. Although the Terms and Conditions describe and summarize some of the key provisions in our Privacy Statement, we encourage you to review the Privacy Statement to learn the full details of our privacy practices (a copy of the Privacy Statement is attached as Schedule A to the amended Terms and Conditions and can also be found here).

We have added to the amended Terms and Conditions more detailed information about the information we collect about you and about your Vehicle, including how we collect your information, what we do with it and how we share it. For example, unless the Data Connection in your Vehicle is deactivated, information about your Vehicle may continue to be collected even if you do not have Service. In addition to other purposes set out in the prior version of the Privacy Statement, we may use the information we collect about you and your Vehicle to improve the quality of our Service and offerings and may share the information we collect with law enforcement or other public safety officials, credit card processors, and/or third parties we contract with who conduct joint marketing initiatives with OnStar. The Privacy Statement provides certain options relating to choices you have concerning how your information is used and how you may manage your preferences. Finally, we have added additional information about how OnStar safeguards your personal information.

The Law That Governs Our Relationship Section 39
We have changed Section 39 of the Terms and Conditions to specify that the laws that govern the amended Terms and Conditions will be the laws of the state of your OnStar billing address.

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not whining at all...I'm kinda pissed that they would even debate on sending my driving history to authorities...and with the legal relations between the gov't and GM over the past few years....we've all seen crazier things. it will just make me feel much more comfortable with it disconnected. i just thought everyone should see this.

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not whining at all...I'm kinda pissed that they would even debate on sending my driving history to authorities...and with the legal relations between the gov't and GM over the past few years....we've all seen crazier things. it will just make me feel much more comfortable with it disconnected. i just thought everyone should see this.
Wasn't directed at you personally, although we are the only two in the thread at the moment. I could have worded that differently

It's directed at the Onstar & black box haters in general. I know I'd be glad to see that info defend me if need be

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My concen is that GM by using Onstar will try to find a way to not pay for a repair when they collect data and tell you that you "abused" the vehicle in such a way that made it break. We all drive our cars the way we want but now do we have to worry about "big brother" watching... I do not abuse my car but I do play around some times. I do not push it to the limits, since I want to keep it a long time.

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I don't worry about things like this....but isn't there an onstar fuse you can just pull out?

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We have added to the Terms and Conditions the provision that if you or we cancel your OnStar Services, we will maintain the two-way connection with your Vehicle and may continue to collect data from your Vehicle, unless you take certain steps to deactivate the Data Connection or fully disable the Equipment.
Oh, really. So Onstar can still bug my car even though I no longer subscribe to the service? That's rich. And stupid. As someone with strong Libertarian views, I find that a bit too intrusive. I don't like "opt-out" games like this.

I don't give two craps about what Onstar wants to do while I'm paying for it, but I do find it rather odd that they still want to somehow think they own you even though you decide you no longer want to subscribe to their service and in effect, don't feel the need they require your permission to "bug" your car. It's just strange in that why they would be interested in collecting data from the car they don't own, and especially from non-subscribing car owners.

Onstar is fairly easy to disable yourself. This "must" have a dealer take out the equipment mandate is weak and lame-o. But at least they're telling you up front they're going to do it. What I'd like for them to disclose is the real reason WHY they're wanting to do this and WHO that information will be available to. So far, this isn't passing a smell test.

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I would assume they want the data for product developement. Its like having millions of test cars on the road.

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I have the 2010 2SS. I see in the manual that F14 in the OnStar universal hands free phone. Is this the ONLY fuze to pull to disable OS?????
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I'm cancelling ALL our OnStar accounts. Too much snooping going on.

I need to figure out a way to physically disable all OnStar comms without killing XM.

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