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post #1 of 24 Old 04-11-2008, 03:47 AM Thread Starter
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Exclamation More From Iraq.

April 10th - 2008
Camp Rustamiyah - Iraq

I'm in a hard-shell, built years ago for an Iraqi training post, but I'm crammed in here with two other guys.
Good, clean guys, but still, we all know I like to live alone. The room is too small to build a wall
to divide much of anything. One of the guys built a little table in the middle which is cool.

Josh was suppose to come back today, but didn't. I'm not sure why but it just could be a "traffic jam" issue. He will probably be flown in.
From what I understand he will be fine, but he did get injured. To what degree I'm not sure. I know that the Hum-V he was working on
burnt to the ground, along with the one next to it, and the fueler which of course started it all. People like Josh shouldn't have to be here.
He's fine, and alive, but I know full well he's not over his last deployment. Now with this? It would be one thing if he could turn to the army
for medical care, but he can't. He has seen my troubles with getting help, and I think that pushes him away from even trying. But I tell him
it shouldn't. We must hold the army accountable for it's actions. If they are going to re-deploy Soldiers over and over again, then they need
to get them taken care of.

But the sad fact is this: The United States Army is broken. For those of you who are in the army, you see the break down all around you.
Today they said they would take a "pause" from troop withdrawals. Seeing is how Soldiers will not refuse their orders in mass numbers, the end of
this war will probably only come to an end when an overwhelming amount of Soldiers break down. A high spike in suicides, AWOLs, murdering
of fellow Soldiers, and an increase of drinking/drug related problems. Now is the army facing all of these things much more today then they have
in the past? Sure they are. The thing is they are keeping it very very quite. But the thing they are not doing is providing real quality medical care.

For those of you on this list that find yourselves disagreeing with me more than anything, do this much: Help us fight for better medical care.
That would be a great way to support the troops, without having to disagree with the war. True, one of the best ways to ease up on Soldiers
and their families is to put a stop to all this nonsense, but too many Americans are still stuck on the thought that is a fight worth fighting.
So we disagree there, but if we can put our differences aside for a bit, we can take the time to help Soldiers get better medical care by
putting pressure, and I mean real pressure, on our elected officials.

Now who would you be standing next to in this fight? Combat Veterans from this war and others past. Military families, active duty
Soldiers, and other branches as well. True, you might be standing next to a college student with vastly different views than yourself, but
I think we can all agree that the mature thing to do is team up as one for a common issue. I think people who are on the other side of
this war than myself have a distorted view of the anti-war crowd. The key thing that you never see are real-deal Combat Vets. These
are the people who should be listened to the most. But they are rarely, if never, shown talking about there take on the war. Unless of course
it a pro-war stance. What about those **** liberals? Yeah, they are here too. But here is something you should know about them before
you bash them: They have backed up this Vet more than even some of my own family. Yeah, I know, hard to believe. They have really supported
the troops, this one included. They might believe in this or that, but one common goal is they want to see Soldiers getting taken care of.
They write me very often, send care packages, and are amongst the first to reply to e-mails such as the one informing all of you about Josh.
So if we can set our pride and egos aside, we can help the Soldier, and the Marine.


I also want to clear up my intentions for what I do. I think some people get the wrong idea. I've pissed some people off in a big way. I've been threaten
to have my ass kicked not once, but twice. I am forceful with my views and rub people the wrong way sometimes. But I do what I do because I want
to see a stop to this mess. Yes, people die in a war. However, there really is no objective here on the ground. When we had our first KIA last time
it was Robbie Light. He was a great guy, but others knew far better then I did. When you see what that kind of graphic loss does to people around you
you begin to think about things. I was already against the war at that point, but I saw the pain these guys were going through, and no one should have
to endure that. There are other people right at this very moment loosing their Robbie Light's. Is worth it for them? Is it worth it to our Nation? I have
found that no, it's not. But we can make it count on many different levels. By helping the families of those who have died. Like so many of you
have with Robbie's. But also making it count that Soldiers are not sent someplace where they can die for the wrong reasons. They signed up to be
Soldiers, and that come with risks, but you are all citizens of this country, you have a responsibility too that I think many of you have forgotten.
To take care of the Soldier that fights for you. I won't lie, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't want to pack it in, give up. But I don't? Why?
In enact the cliché, I don't forget. I don't forget the crying Soldiers at the funeral services I have photographed. I don't forget the families I've interviewed
and heard their stories. So you to, should not forget. Don't forget that they need your true help and support, as much as you need them.

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This is HM1 English. I'm an E6 stationed at Camp Lejeune. I understand you're going through some major attacks over there, but be sure you limit what you say on this board. You're very close to going over the line (where you're at, how many people are with you in the bunker, etc.)

You need to limit your information you post in order to keep yourself out of legal trouble. I suggest you don't post any more numbers info.

I've been over there before & I agree with you on many of the issues: this war will probably only end when our military machines break down or people begin refusing orders.

Medical care within the military is sorely lacking; hospitals must see a pt. every 15 minutes, not giving the proper time to do evaluations & treat patients properly. Most of our injured vets are simply forgottena bout it seems.

Leadership is sorely lacking - senior enlisted leaders are too busy competing with others for rank to notice problems, fix them, & truly look out for their people's best interests.

Just hang in there, man - it only makes you stronger in the long run.

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Hey man! Thanks for the update! I think I know how many of us here feel about what your going through and you should know! Just keep yourself and the guys around you safe! I know hard to say and harder to understand typing behind a computer. I am not there. But the thing is your letting us know how you feel! Thats a bigger job than anything man. The medical side of it the goverment side of it the military side of it..
Your right and it is broken..with no end in sight! I won't get into it since your post sums much of the medical side up on it.

Yea and like Classic said we don't want you to give to much info..let the 5th gen protos do that for this site .

But great hearing from you and knowing your okay!

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This is HM1 English. I'm an E6 stationed at Camp Lejeune. I understand you're going through some major attacks over there, but be sure you limit what you say on this board. You're very close to going over the line (where you're at, how many people are with you in the bunker, etc.)

You need to limit your information you post in order to keep yourself out of legal trouble. I suggest you don't post any more numbers info.

I've been over there before & I agree with you on many of the issues: this war will probably only end when our military machines break down or people begin refusing orders.

Medical care within the military is sorely lacking; hospitals must see a pt. every 15 minutes, not giving the proper time to do evaluations & treat patients properly. Most of our injured vets are simply forgottena bout it seems.

Leadership is sorely lacking - senior enlisted leaders are too busy competing with others for rank to notice problems, fix them, & truly look out for their people's best interests.

Just hang in there, man - it only makes you stronger in the long run.
wise words

Not to mention preaching to the choir.
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Keep your chin up and head down. I also agree with the numbers thing. That's a good way to get yourself in a buttload of trouble. It's a "friend of a friend" kinda thing, but I knew of a specialist who was busted down to private and given other Article 15 punishment (garnished wages, additional duties, etc) for post less than what you have on his myspace.
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Thanks everyone. Yeah, I usually don't post that much detail on these boards. But I think people should here these things. I think the reason they tell us not to give out too much is for safety, but I also feel they don't want bad press making it's way to the people back home.

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Thanks everyone. Yeah, I usually don't post that much detail on these boards. But I think people should here these things. I think the reason they tell us not to give out too much is for safety, but I also feel they don't want bad press making it's way to the people back home.
Sorry bro, I'm going to disagree. Telling people where you're at and how many men are in your bunker is tactical information. Nothing to do with bad press. Just be careful.
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I will. Thanks for the concern though.

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I hope you don't talk this anti-war stuff around your fellow soldiers. That is one way to ruin troop morale and get yourself in trouble at the same time. I understand you are upset about getting stop-lossed, but that was in the contract you signed just like everybody else. Just concentrate on the training the Army has given you and stay safe, so you can come back home and get your 5th gen.

I agree that we don't seem to be making much progress, but all we can hope for is to provide a stable enough government so we can leave. If we just up and left right now, someone crazier than Saddam would take over as a new dictator. BTW I saw first hand how oppressed the average citizen was over there under Saddam's regime. If you need a sense of purpose for what you are doing over there think of the humanitarian effort you will accomplish if the government's mission is accomplished. The average person was dirt poor over there (still is), but in a non-corrupt government they should be able to earn decent wages and have a good life. That was how I felt over there. I placed more emphasis on human compassion than anything else.

However, technically, it doesn't matter what views the serviceman has on any war/mission/etc. Servicemen are paid to carry out orders. We have been in a "war on terrorism" since Sept 11. That's 6 and a half years. The typical contract a servicemember signs is 4 years active/4 years IRR or 6 years Reserve/2 IRR. Your IRR time is calculated starting when you sign papers. For example I was in the delayed entry program. I signed in November and left for bootcamp in April. I had 4 months of IRR time knocked out before bootcamp. My point being by now unless you signed up between April of 2000 and Sept 10 2001, you have signed up/re-enlisted knowing we are in wartime and you are likely to be deployed.

I served our country in wartime, decided I had done more and risked more than the average citizen (essentially earned my freedoms), and decided to get out. I simply didn't re-up when my contract was up.

One more thing, (and I'm not saying this directly to you but more of a general statement) don't dishonor those who have died over there fighting by saying it was for nothing. They gave the ultimate sacrifice for our country by carrying out it's orders. It is terribly disrespectful to say they died for nothing. They were successful in their mission of removing Saddam Hussein from power (a dictator who has been a threat and thorn in this country's side and who committed countless atrocities to innocent men,women, and children for decades).

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Sorry bro, I'm going to disagree. Telling people where you're at and how many men are in your bunker is tactical information. Nothing to do with bad press. Just be careful.
I agree. Be very careful with releasing numbers & location info. As a Canadian i can't comment on American issues , however i and a great deal of us here in Oshawa support our troops and their mission in Afghanistan. Like you i fully support having the correct medical and long term health components available for the soldiers past,present and future and for their familys. If a Government sends them on a mission the very least they can do is look after their mental and physical needs afterwards.

Please be safe and don't forget we'll have a New Chevy Camaro ready and waiting for you after your deployment.
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