ModernCamaro.com - 5th Generation Camaro Enthusiasts - Reply to Topic
The MC Lounge General Discussions. Disrespectful behavior will not be tolerated.
POLITICAL AND/OR RELIGIOUS CONTENT IS PROHIBITED

Thread: Ever wonder what it takes to own a MiG? Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the ModernCamaro.com - 5th Generation Camaro Enthusiasts forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

  Topic Review (Newest First)
11-20-2009 11:37 PM
slims00ls1z28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer505 View Post
The only record i think the f-4 still holds is the most produced fighter at 5057 and the longest in service. The f-16 is close to the sells record and probley will break it with oversea's sells. ANd it will surpass the longest serivce in about 2038
I'm not talking about records that still hold as technology makes it irrelavent I'm talking about multiple air speed records and such. Sure they were broken later by better birds but never amassed a trophy room like they do. such as these,

In 1998, based upon its class and weight for medium-sized aircraft, it still holds:

The world mark for speed over a 15-25 km. course -- 1,058.8 mph
3 U.S. records for speed over closed-circuit courses without payload (100, 500 and 1,000 km.) -- avg. speed 730 mph; top speed 785.7 mph
Over its lifetime, the F-4 Phantom:

Set 15 world aviation records within its first 28 months, including altitude (98,500 ft.), 8 time-to-climb marks, and speed (Mach 2.59)
5 speed records were held for 13 years until broken by the F-15 Eagle in 1975
First aircraft to achieve a sustained altitude of 66,443.8 ft.
First aircraft to fly from Los Angeles to New York in 2 hours and 49 minutes
Largest production run of any supersonic fighter built in the United States (more than 5,000 aircraft in 20 model configurations, including nation-specific configurations)
First production aircraft to make extensive use of titanium
First fighter with pulse Doppler radar with look-down and shoot-down capability
First fighter to concurrently serve multiple purposes for multiple military services (U.S. Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps; and 11 foreign military services)
Only fighter ever to fly concurrently with both U.S. aerobatics flight demonstration teams -- the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds


Quote:
Yeah, the airforce finally realized the JSF had no chance of filling the a10s slot, so they're finally rebuilding the fleet as the A10C.. thank god.
I remember the senate debating scratching the A-10's because the "tank buster" role is no longer needed. That is one of my favs as far as just pure unadulterated whop-arse is concerned. A flying tank itself. Built more models of it than any other I have done.
11-20-2009 10:26 AM
Zabo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luwinkle View Post
They had the P47 on several episodes of the history channel series Dogfights. One pilot got his crankcase shot and lost all of his oil..but still flew anyway.
Yep. There's a reason why the Jugs flew low and the Stang's flew high. You throw a rod in a Merlin and the whole thing goes to hell in under 10 seconds from 15K feet.

Throw a rod in a radial, and well.. "did you feel somethin'?"
11-20-2009 10:20 AM
Racer505 But you can't forget about Rupublic's other low level jet. The Thud. That was mean down on the deck goin supersonic.
11-20-2009 10:16 AM
Luwinkle They had the P47 on several episodes of the history channel series Dogfights. One pilot got his crankcase shot and lost all of his oil..but still flew anyway.



Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!
11-20-2009 09:32 AM
thedcorvette
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zabo View Post
Eh, you can make 2 hours by hammering the throttle on an SS in 6th at 7900RPM.

And I'll agree, the Jug was a mean sumbich. You'd never catch a B model Mustang and on down on the deck if it wasn't clear of AA fire. Twin row radial, so what if I lose 4 cylinders.. I got enough to bring me home. Not to mention part of the design philosophy was that the engine would serve as a makeshift shield from incoming head on attacks. Republic went out with a bang when they made the Son of the Jug, the Tbolt II. Pulls the same crazy stunts the original did 60 years ago.
Yeah, the airforce finally realized the JSF had no chance of filling the a10s slot, so they're finally rebuilding the fleet as the A10C.. thank god.
11-20-2009 09:27 AM
Zabo
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackacidevil91 View Post
Well I drive by the Quincy Airport all the time. I havent seen these jets move since Ive been out here personally though. One thing I can tell you, it takes about 4-5 hours to drive to Quincy from Chicago. 2 hours LOL I wish.
Eh, you can make 2 hours by hammering the throttle on an SS in 6th at 7900RPM.

And I'll agree, the Jug was a mean sumbich. You'd never catch a B model Mustang and on down on the deck if it wasn't clear of AA fire. Twin row radial, so what if I lose 4 cylinders.. I got enough to bring me home. Not to mention part of the design philosophy was that the engine would serve as a makeshift shield from incoming head on attacks. Republic went out with a bang when they made the Son of the Jug, the Tbolt II. Pulls the same crazy stunts the original did 60 years ago.
11-20-2009 09:14 AM
thedcorvette
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer505 View Post
The only record i think the f-4 still holds is the most produced fighter at 5057 and the longest in service. The f-16 is close to the sells record and probley will break it with oversea's sells. ANd it will surpass the longest serivce in about 2038
"A total of 15,686 Thunderbolts of all types were built, making it one of the most heavily produced fighter aircraft in history (second only to the 16,766 P-51 Mustangs amongst U.S. fighters)"

^Quick wiki

The Jug is also credited with some 3700 kills on about.com.. would make an interesting paper to analyze the best and worst aircraft of all time.. but i think it'd be down between the jug and mustang for overall kills and usage.

Edit: over 7000 aircraft destroyed in the air and on the ground according to warbird alley.. if anyone's wondering military history is my major.. prior to studying air combat in WWII i would have probably said the f15 was my favorite aircraft.
11-20-2009 07:46 AM
Rodimus Prime Well I drive by the Quincy Airport all the time. I havent seen these jets move since Ive been out here personally though. One thing I can tell you, it takes about 4-5 hours to drive to Quincy from Chicago. 2 hours LOL I wish.
11-20-2009 06:34 AM
Jekyll-N-Hyde
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer505 View Post
The only record i think the f-4 still holds is the most produced fighter at 5057 and the longest in service. The f-16 is close to the sells record and probley will break it with oversea's sells. ANd it will surpass the longest serivce in about 2038


The f-16 is still known as the best most proven fighter to this day. Before General Dynamics sold out to lockheed 4 planes a day were moving from one end of the factory out the door.
Today Lockheed has basically out sourced 98% of the F-16 and moved it outside to a hanger building off by itself.
f-35 is Getting VERY big Right now and before you know it we will probably ship F-16 off to Turkey.
UAE ( united Arab emigrants ) The Bread and butter of over sea's sales for F-16 has backed off from buying NEW F-16's. Instead employees of lockheed have made a deal with them and are over sea's as we speaking teaching them how to rebuild/build F-16's.
The F-16 is the most proven/affordable aircraft ( fighter ) that ever touched the earth however with the New F-35 its sad to see a plane like the F-16 put on the back burner. UAE is not stupid for the price of a F35 they have can 3 F-16's so why put in orders for an F35 when they can purcahse old F-16's from the US and rebuild there's ? Last I remember 4,416 F-16's have rolled off the line here in Ft worth. Pretty soon the poor plane may not be here at all Like you said it may pass the F4 but it will probably happen being built by foreign countires like Greece and Turkey.

3 years ago we had a F4 fly in for an Airshow at work and the first thing I could think of when I saw it was a Dodge Diesel ( Long Trails of Black Suet ) floated behind the plane as it flew through the air.


If yall want to look up a Very cool Aircraft look up the F111 Ardvark although it was known as a bomber it was a sweap wing and performed speed wise like a fighter.
It could get low to the ground sweep its wings back and fly at super sonic speeds and hide from Radar. Australia is the only place that still uses them today. They Were very big but expensive so they got Canceled By General Dynamics and the F-15E took its place for the time since it was more affordable.
For its time and today its technology is still used.
11-20-2009 06:32 AM
USA1Camaro I'd like to get my pilot license.

Back on topic: If you have a big bank account and balls of steel you too can have exotic aircraft. I've read other articles that say that after the Soviet collapse, you could equip your own army or air-force from Soviet "surplus"
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome