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post #1 of 15 Old 11-16-2008, 06:01 PM Thread Starter
 
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Would it be worth it? LS7 conversion from V6???

Just like the title says would it be worth it.
Base V6 lets say $23,000
2SS V8 $33,000

LS7 anywhere from $12-15,000
Tremec TR6060 Transmission $2500-$4000

Base V6 Engine goes from $2500 to mid $3,000s
Havent checked the price on trans

LS3 V8 goes for $4500 to $6,000s

Obviously if i bought the 2SS i wouldnt have to buy the transmission
But will it be worth it. I want to be different and im not into
the colors, rims, sound systems, ground effects.

I want something completely different and ofcourse fast.

Or should I just supe up LS3 i mean there are plenty of aftermarket
parts out there for the Vette so there are bound to be plenty
of parts for the Camaro.

Bottom line i want fast, but still street legal, and drivable.
And for the sake of things lets assume I have a person to do the work.
Are atleast getting a really really awesome deal from a dealer

I really want a Z28 and what ever i get after i do some modifcations
it will be rebadged as so, or IROC. I just love the way Z28 and IROC looks on the side.

Oh and one last thing hehe. If you had access to a totaled ZO6 engine still runs, car was actually hit in the back half of the car by a truck, engine
it self not hit, would you risk getting that engine if it was only like $5000?
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$5,000 for a LS7?
Half of it would probably be missing.



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keep in mind, if you went from a V6 to an LS7, it's not going to just bolt in...you're probably going to have to buy a lot of other parts as well...accessories, brackets, wiring, computer etc (and you'll still only have the base suspension and brakes)....You're better off going from an LS3 to LS7...a lot more parts would interchange and you could re-sell the LS3 for a decent amount of $$.

I'd just buy the 1SS, bolt on headers and a procharger or maggie, get a dyno-tune and be happy. If you need more power do a head/cam swap as well.

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You're question is an objective one. It totally depends on who you're asking. Would it be worth it to me? Absolutley not. Personally I think the thought itself is completely rediculous.
You want to take a V6 car, that has the option of a large HP motor, and beefier tranny from the factory, capable of coming close to the HP numbers of the motor you want to spend an insane amount of money on to retrofit in said V6, with minor bolt on mods. If you ask me, I'll say a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.
And your listed reasons to do the swap in the first place are a bit mild for the course of action you are thinking about taking. IE, and I quote
"Bottom line i want fast, but still street legal, and drivable". A +400HP 6SPD stock V8 isn't enough? Fine then, grab a cam, long tubes and a tune and you'll be around 500HP @ a cost of say $2K, as opposed to your $25K+ LS7 project that will yeild you just over a 100HP more
Absolutley absurd that you have to have a $600HP plus motor and spend $25K on top of the base car to do it under that reasoning.

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a turbo system. not a kit. not the same thing. a system is all inclusive
would be in order, retain the note, ins., and drivabilty of a v6 car.
but all the power of a h/c/i of a ls1 450-500rwhp
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You're question is an objective one. It totally depends on who you're asking. Would it be worth it to me? Absolutley not. Personally I think the thought itself is completely rediculous.
You want to take a V6 car, that has the option of a large HP motor, and beefier tranny from the factory, capable of coming close to the HP numbers of the motor you want to spend an insane amount of money on to retrofit in said V6, with minor bolt on mods. If you ask me, I'll say a TOTAL WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.
And your listed reasons to do the swap in the first place are a bit mild for the course of action you are thinking about taking. IE, and I quote
"Bottom line i want fast, but still street legal, and drivable". A +400HP 6SPD stock V8 isn't enough? Fine then, grab a cam, long tubes and a tune and you'll be around 500HP @ a cost of say $2K, as opposed to your $25K+ LS7 project that will yeild you just over a 100HP more
Absolutley absurd that you have to have a $600HP plus motor and spend $25K on top of the base car to do it under that reasoning.
Well I guess I should have said I want to be different,
oh wait i did. Anyways every since the LS3 was annouced
I have been looking at things people have been doing
to the vette and i see some of those horsepower numbers
so i have a sense of what may be possible with the Camaro SS

The other thing is time, I wasnt sure if the V6 besides the listed
stuff was drasticly different as far as mounts and things under the
hood and me myself not being a person that works on engines wouldnt
know how different a V6 Camaro, vs a V8 Camaro would be thats why
i posed the question, would it be worth it.

Going with a car that is $10grand less and then applying $17Grand
worth of upgrades minus selling parts which would get me into
the territory of $12 Grand in upgrades if i sale the current engine and
tranny. Now true like you said there are bound to be other things
that may need to be changed and thats why i posed the question
because just from the Engine/Tranny Numbers it looks like it may
be feasible, but i dont know what else may be needed.

Vs

Going with a car that costs $33 Grand+ $14 Grand minus
selling parts which gets me to around $8grand more with
all the SS stuff.

Just saying if you are someone could perform the work then it
seems like the V6 would be the better way to go, but maybe
not because there maybe way more parts i have to by that
wont make it cheaper i dont know. Like The pipes are
slightly bigger on the SS vs the Reg, but is it a different
flow system all together are is it just the end pieces that are
bigger?

I dont have the answers thats why i posted i wanted to know
if it was feasible.
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Well I guess I should have said I want to be different,
oh wait i did. Anyways every since the LS3 was annouced
I have been looking at things people have been doing
to the vette and i see some of those horsepower numbers
so i have a sense of what may be possible with the Camaro SS

The other thing is time, I wasnt sure if the V6 besides the listed
stuff was drasticly different as far as mounts and things under the
hood and me myself not being a person that works on engines wouldnt
know how different a V6 Camaro, vs a V8 Camaro would be thats why
i posed the question, would it be worth it.

Going with a car that is $10grand less and then applying $17Grand
worth of upgrades minus selling parts which would get me into
the territory of $12 Grand in upgrades if i sale the current engine and
tranny. Now true like you said there are bound to be other things
that may need to be changed and thats why i posed the question
because just from the Engine/Tranny Numbers it looks like it may
be feasible, but i dont know what else may be needed.

Vs

Going with a car that costs $33 Grand+ $14 Grand minus
selling parts which gets me to around $8grand more with
all the SS stuff.

Just saying if you are someone could perform the work then it
seems like the V6 would be the better way to go, but maybe
not because there maybe way more parts i have to by that
wont make it cheaper i dont know. Like The pipes are
slightly bigger on the SS vs the Reg, but is it a different
flow system all together are is it just the end pieces that are
bigger?

I dont have the answers thats why i posted i wanted to know
if it was feasible.
Feasible? Depending on what you're willing to spend, anything is feasible. EVERYTHING drive and power train specific will be different than the V6. You will have to upgrade your breaking/suspension system, ECU, perhaps weld new mounts to bolt your motor and tranny into, (not sure about that though). No one is going to give you anything close to what list will be on your scrapped parts, think 15-25 cents on the dollar. Then you have to worry about the cost of ripping this stuff out, and refitting parts that aren't supposed to be there in the first place. If you have to pay for this service to be done, it's probably about a full 11/2- two weeks work by a good mechanic (about 40-90 an hour depending on where you live) if they're aren't any hidden issues. THEN (this may be of no concern to you) you have to think about all this hard work and extraordinarily high cost of the project, and know that your resale value will still never be higher than that of an SS IF you're lucky. When you actually figure this out to a real dollar amount, leaving what you may think you can get for your scrapped parts out of the equation, I'd like to see it. I think you're in for a shockingly high dollar amount.
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To answer the OP's question in a nutshell......"No!"

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To answer the OP's question in a nutshell......"No!"
thanks, pretty simple.
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I think a good all motor alternative to the LS7 (and without breaking the bank) would be a stroker shortblock, CNC P&P LS3 heads, cam and supporting bolt-ons. And prolly, in the end, make more power.


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