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Don't get too excited yet. I remember years ago when CAFE standards were recinded from the original bill's numbers. Besides, if you burn E85 ethanol, your engine gets worse MPG because of the lower BTU of alcohol versus gasoline. Unless things really change drastically in the next few years, I don't see 35 MPG CAFE a reality. Let's not all punch the panic button!
 

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i thought the new chevy v8's already got 35 mpg they run on alternating 4 cylinders.
That's not the point. CAFE stands for Corporate Average Fuel Economy. That means you average the MPG of the ENTIRE car model lineup. I think it still excludes full size pickups in this average, but I could be wrong. Besides, the EPA has changed the way they arrive at MPG #s now, they are more "real world"...meaning lower. So, buck up engineers!
 

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i thought the new chevy v8's already got 35 mpg they run on alternating 4 cylinders.
No, the new Tahoes only get 22 mpg and they have AFM. I know you cant compare the tahoes to camaros. The ls2 gto's get about 24 w/o afm, not too bad imo
 

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Maybe they need to take the Volt tech, add it in to the Camaro and call it the Camaro Hybrid...
 

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How does the Volt average into the average?
It uses 0 gallons for 40 miles and then uses the engine.
If you travel less than 40 miles it gets infinity mpg.

What if it was all electric? How would that work?
 

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Maybe they need to take the Volt tech, add it in to the Camaro and call it the Camaro Hybrid...
Smart idea. I think having a hybrid version of the majority of the lineup isnt a bad idea. Hell Im sure a lot of people love a curtain model but like to have beyond average fuel ecomony over the base model versus performance. And if the idea works then testing the waters with Volt technology in certain models. With that in place the average would be great and prolly better than anyone else.
 

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The volt IS all electric. The engine is there JUST to recharge the batteries. There is no mechanical linkage between the engine and the wheels.

If you drive with a full tank until the tank is empty it is supposed to average 50mpg.
I know how it works. It still uses the gas engine. What I am asking is how does that fit into the CAFE standards. How many MPG do they rate it at?
If it gets 50mpg while charging via gas engine and can run 40 miles without starting the gas engine then it would get 100mpg if you drove 90 miles a day, 200 mpg if you drove 65 miles per day, and infinite mpg if you drove 40 miles per day.

How do you put an average on that? For me I never drive more that 40 miles a day unless I go on vacation.
 

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Anyone see the tech where they put the electric motors in the wheels? That's the future. All wheel drive, computer controlled skid/brake detection at each wheel. Even the Acura system that drives the outside wheels in a turn(since they have to turn faster) could all be done. Once the "engine and transmission" are gone, the design possibilities are endless what to do with the space.
 

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You know, one day, someone will actually design a working flux capacitor...
 

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GM should do a camaro with a duramax,that'll add MPG and power:lol:
 

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Well lets hope they come up with something fast , because here in Oshawa our new plant will be building RWD Camaro's and some other product (Impala) that falls under the Zeta platform. If the CAFE makes a big impact on Oshawa then the Camaro may just be a 3-5 yr program and then we switch to small compact cars.
 

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Well lets hope they come up with something fast , because here in Oshawa our new plant will be building RWD Camaro's and some other product (Impala) that falls under the Zeta platform. If the CAFE makes a big impact on Oshawa then the Camaro may just be a 3-5 yr program and then we switch to small compact cars.
So they are planing on building an Impala Zeta there?
 

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So they are planing on building an Impala Zeta there?

To be honest i have no clue what type of product we're going to get beside the Camaro. The Oshawa Autoplex is the biggest plant in North America ( 2 Car ,1 Truck 1 Stamping) and the car plants have the capacity to pump out 2500 cars a day. Along with a brand new bodyshop and state of the art paintshop . We still have not been told what other products will be added to the RWD Zeta program. I think GM is playing their cards very close to their chest. I guess you can't blame them because of the ever changing automotive world calls for smart decisions. Long term planning is the key. With no G8 in the gameplan for N.America that would leave a Zeta Buick and some type of Zeta Chev. I vote for the Impala in either FWD or AWD.
 
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