[OverAnxious]

Some of you guys need to relax on this CAFE/Camaro/Hybrid talk.

Until you see something from GM on the issue, it's business as usual as far as I'm concerned

Carry on :roxor:

:5go:

 

[brandonppr]

Amen!:roxor:

 

[brandonppr]

The father has spoken:

All purely conjecture on the part of the author.

Oshawa will be a flex-plant -- so we'll be able to build other vehicles in that plant.

CAFE changes everything...........but right now, no one on the outside knows what we're going to do...........

 

[OctaneZ28]

:werd:

 

[camarodb]

At the chance of sounding like i live under a rock can someone please send me a link or tell me just what is the CAFE law is all about and how it reads.

 

[Devryn]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAFE

 

[radz282003]

The message from Father is reassuring at least.

 

[Devryn]

The big kicker for the new CAFE standard is that's it's more or less all inclusive, whereas before light trucks didn't count against the makers CAFE standard.

 

[bad2000z]

I'm not driving a 4cyl 2020 Camaro, I don't care how cool it looks.

 

[$¢'s 5th Gen]

^^^Maybe if it were a twin turbo making around 400 hp, I'd think about it.

 

[Z28 Autobot]

makes the 300HP V6 more appealing..

 

[CUONCRS]

If I HAVE to, I'll drive this car with a 4 cylinder and no muffler.

 

[Luwinkle]

If I HAVE to, I'll drive this car with a 4 cylinder and no muffler.

Ewwww
how ricer-ish.

 

[Jinx]

Well the see that from SS is nice. I still have my worries about "changes everything" part. I hope all that will be change (if it ever was) is making a LS3 that could be in the car, into a LS3 with AFM. That would be no problem. Subbing in a L76 instead of a LS3....I can live with. A twin turbo six, I would have to see how it reacts to others modding it before buying (I dont want it to be a pain in the wallet to mod like a TT 3000gt/Stealth r/t)

Im not sackriding crap here. Im looking for the superior car. Up to this point, all sounded like the camaro will be. I think GM wouldnt want to lose in the pony car games of 2010 (also considering it also the camaro's come back), so Im hoping a 350+hp V8 engines is still in the hat and as a supporter of this community i will have some hope on it.

 

[brandonppr]

I hope they make LS3 with AFM and FFV.

FFV alone would make the v8 version meet or exeed the standard without making any other change.

 

[Jinx]

I hope they make LS3 with AFM and FFV.

FFV alone would make the v8 version meet or exeed the standard without making any other change.

Agreed. I think automakers are looking into loop hole to get good cars out onto dealership lots as we speak. I just hope it something we can live with like a LS3 with AFM and/or FFV. The 2008 vette have proved themselves to be blessing environmentally, performance, fuel-wise, economically (speaking of just the engine of course), and potential.

 

[vod]

Didn't holden do a bunch of work on the camaro? If so I wouldn't be surprised with an L76 but tuned for premium gas with maybe 400hp

 

[Slayn]

Forget turbo v6, low displacement v8 woks for me. I just dont like how anything but a v8 sounds. Its just hard because law makers are idiots and sign off on crap they dont know anything about. They force automakers to make more strict crash requirements on cars and then tell them to lower the MPG at the same time. The hell are they going to add crash weight and lose mpg at the same time?

 

[camarodb]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAFE

Thank you, now i can be informed.

 

[Luwinkle]

Forget turbo v6, low displacement v8 woks for me. I just dont like how anything but a v8 sounds. Its just hard because law makers are idiots and sign off on crap they dont know anything about. They force automakers to make more strict crash requirements on cars and then tell them to lower the MPG at the same time. The hell are they going to add crash weight and lose mpg at the same time?

You got yourself backwards.
If you add weight you lose MPG.

CAFE is suppost to make them increase MPG, not lose it.