hmm! I think the ball is begining to roll!
Camaro in limbo
GM board must decide whether to build car
By JOSEPH SZCZESNY - The Oakland Press
Press Automotive Editor
The General Motors Corp. Board of Directors will make the final decision on whether to build a new Chevrolet Camaro.
But, the board hasn't decided yet, Robert Lutz, GM vice chairman for product development, said Wednesday. The product development staff must prepare a wide-ranging business case for review by the board, which then must decide whether to move ahead with the investment required for production of the vehicle.
GM Chairman Richard Wagoner, however, has approved the spending required to continue work on the Camaro project, Lutz told reporters after a speech in Detroit.
"This company is headed in the right direction, and it's headed in the right direction under the right leader," Lutz said.
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the ball is rolling!
The next major decision milestone is fast approaching the camaro - as Bob has said the buisiness case is being brought together and the design is moving ahaead!
The next major decision milestone is fast approaching the camaro - as Bob has said the buisiness case is being brought together and the design is moving ahaead!
SO we should be hearing something real sooon!!!!!
yes, hopefully
but dont hold your breath - nothing happens fast in the car industry!
but dont hold your breath - nothing happens fast in the car industry!
man what happend to the days if different looking models every year like the 60's for gm? GM had over 50% of the market then.Things were definately moving fast in the auto world then. You know we have alot better techniques now and far better equipment. sometimes its ok to hold on to a body style for alittle while but we sometimes get bored with the same stuff all of the time.that's why this camaro will sell like hotcakes if produced because the last generation of camaro lasted 10 years with little change, and this car looks so much different than the last camaro that we that we had to deal with!(but that is my opinion)Oh yea go team camaro will they keep the guages in the center console? What is up with that cd player it looks cool but it leaves no oportunity for the customer to upgrade their audio system which is important to younger buyer's
I like the 1st generation camaros the best didn't like the 4th generation camaros at all and i think the new camaro will be great.
the 4th gen are nice but they needed something other than a small front clip and engine change.
The reasons i didn't like the 4th generation camaro are they had to much glass - the dash was way to wide - when in the driver seat you can't see the hood or fenders. Set in a 1st generation camaro and you will see what i mean. I think the new camaro will take care of those problems.
that's cool I like all of the camaro's but the 2nd gen are my least favorite
when you sit in a 5th gen camaro you definatley see hood! but what's even better than the hood is the way the super deep rear quarters look in the rear vision mirrors!
Gonna, As for the gauges .. if we get the green light to build it we will want to remain as true to the concept as possible. That means we fight to keep the gauges in (obviously not for the base model).
As for the radios; with most new cars, the radio 'talks' to the rest of the electronics in the car and is fully integrated - so you cant just take one out and plug an aftermaket radio in - for this reason, the radio does have to be really good quality and capable of being hooked up to after market components.
Gonna, As for the gauges .. if we get the green light to build it we will want to remain as true to the concept as possible. That means we fight to keep the gauges in (obviously not for the base model).
As for the radios; with most new cars, the radio 'talks' to the rest of the electronics in the car and is fully integrated - so you cant just take one out and plug an aftermaket radio in - for this reason, the radio does have to be really good quality and capable of being hooked up to after market components.
Any outsider looking at the speed at which GM has been moving ahead with the Camaro has to assume Board approval is just a formality at this point. No car company spends the resource like GM has already on a car that risks not being approved.
My theory: They're holding off on the official announcement until the car is closer to production readiness. That way they can shock the world by saying not only are we going to build it but its going to be here a lot faster than anyone thought.
My theory: They're holding off on the official announcement until the car is closer to production readiness. That way they can shock the world by saying not only are we going to build it but its going to be here a lot faster than anyone thought.
Good logic right thereChris 96 WS6 said:Any outsider looking at the speed at which GM has been moving ahead with the Camaro has to assume Board approval is just a formality at this point. No car company spends the resource like GM has already on a car that risks not being approved.
My theory: They're holding off on the official announcement until the car is closer to production readiness. That way they can shock the world by saying not only are we going to build it but its going to be here a lot faster than anyone thought.
Sounds real good to me. I think i'm going to like the new camaro a lot.GoTeamCamaro said:when you sit in a 5th gen camaro you definatley see hood! but what's even better than the hood is the way the super deep rear quarters look in the rear vision mirrors!
Gonna, As for the gauges .. if we get the green light to build it we will want to remain as true to the concept as possible. That means we fight to keep the gauges in (obviously not for the base model).
As for the radios; with most new cars, the radio 'talks' to the rest of the electronics in the car and is fully integrated - so you cant just take one out and plug an aftermaket radio in - for this reason, the radio does have to be really good quality and capable of being hooked up to after market components.
I sorta feel the same way. How "Un-GM" would it be to actually be quicker to market than forcasted? Who knows, maybe they have been secretly working on a production model for longer than anyone realizes in order to bring the car back as a 40th anniversary 07! Wouldn't that be cool!....yeah, I doubt it too.
Chris 96 WS6 said:Any outsider looking at the speed at which GM has been moving ahead with the Camaro has to assume Board approval is just a formality at this point. No car company spends the resource like GM has already on a car that risks not being approved.
My theory: They're holding off on the official announcement until the car is closer to production readiness. That way they can shock the world by saying not only are we going to build it but its going to be here a lot faster than anyone thought.
I think getting a production facility ready to go is the biggest hurdle at this point. We've been hearing this Oshawa vs. Wilmington stuff for a couple months. Obviously a lot of the engineering is already done....remember the CAD chassis drawings that were leaked in December?
The car is definitely further along than one might think, but it will still take a long time, even if all the engineering was 100% done, to select a plant, get tooling set up, alpha and beta test the first prototypes, and then start production.
They could do the powertrain validation by stuffing the engine/trans, rear end into another car, like a GTO, but there are other things like cold and hot weather testing, water/leak testing, etc. etc. that can't really be done until there are beta cars on the streets, and you can't do that until you settle on a plant.
The car is definitely further along than one might think, but it will still take a long time, even if all the engineering was 100% done, to select a plant, get tooling set up, alpha and beta test the first prototypes, and then start production.
They could do the powertrain validation by stuffing the engine/trans, rear end into another car, like a GTO, but there are other things like cold and hot weather testing, water/leak testing, etc. etc. that can't really be done until there are beta cars on the streets, and you can't do that until you settle on a plant.
well it's all good as long as they come out with the car the sooner the better is my suggestion! that is ood about the radio and the way you can see out of the car!
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