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I went by the dealership to see Envy again yesterday. The paint job was supposed to be done by now, but they seem to be having trouble matching the synergy green metallic paint. First time a little too dark, second time too much gold metallic fleck, hopefully third time will be the charm...or three strikes and they're out. :shakefist: They have a paint specialist coming to help them mix it this time, so I'm hopeful that it will look better than this. :eek:

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I have a friend that ownes a P&B Shop. I have seen some of the metallics have 6 alternate colors in a paint book.
What I mean by that is he would have a paint book with 7 squares that were all just a hair diffrent.

Granted that was just before they went to the Computerized Camers Systems, but now that camera has to pick from those same 7 vairations.

That is why they will get it really close and then blend it. That means to make light overlaping passes over the part next to the new part.

Patience Grasshopper:lol: sorry i couldn't help my self. I really do like the Green.

I'm sure they will get it right and you'll be happy.:thumbsup:
 

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Is that a paint that requires a tinted clear coat?

If so they can be difficult to match. As pretty as some of those colors are I stay away from them for that reason. Hopefully, the "expert" can get it right.

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Did you take it to a dealership? The paint codes should be the same, and the only variance should be how well they prime the plastic.
Of course I did, even though I had better estimates elsewhere. I didn't trust anyone else to match the SGM. I had the dealership that I bought my car from do the paint, but I purchased my car on 4/23 right off the truck and I was told it would take a couple of weeks for all the work to be completed. Now, it's been almost three months, and Grasshopper losing patience fast. I've never taken final delivery on this car, and I can't seem to get any real idea of when I can. Meanwhile, I'm making payments and I'm getting a little frustrated. :mad:

Don't get me wrong, my GM dealership has been good to me and I am grateful to have found my dealer, but sometimes I feel like we're all in way over our heads on this one.
 

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Of course I did, even though I had better estimates elsewhere. I didn't trust anyone else to match the SGM. I had the dealership that I bought it from do the paint, but I purchased this car on 4/23 right off the truck and I was told it would take a couple of weeks for all the work to be completed. Now, it's been almost three months, and Grasshopper losing patience fast. I've never taken final delivery on this car, and I can't seem to get any real idea of when I can. Meanwhile, I'm making payments and I'm getting a little frustrated. :mad:

Don't get me wrong, my GM dealership has been good to me and I am grateful to have found my dealer, but sometimes I feel like we're all in way over our heads on this one.
What do you mean by saying you haven't taken final delivery yet? Haven't you had the car for several months (and have been making payments)?
 

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What do you mean by saying you haven't taken final delivery yet? Haven't you had the car for several months (and have been making payments)?
Owned it...yes, signed papers on 4/23. Made payments...yes, two so far. Had it...not exactly. The modifications that I purchased, when I bought the car (paid cash for all of them) have never been completed, so GM has never actually released the car to me. I've had the car at home on 3 separate occasions for a total of eight days, and of course, I had a key at that time (and a lot of fun). Each time, though, it goes back to the dealership because all the work isn't done. At no other time, have I ever been in possession of a key to the car. I did not take the car home when I signed the papers and I have not taken final delivery, because all the work that I've paid for isn't done yet.
 

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WOW!
I don't know what to say to that.

I've had mine for about 3 weeks and put 3600 miles on it.

When I said patience, I figured patience for a week or so.

I'm sure they are ready to get your car out of their hair, maybe they need a little incentive. Maybe a call from an attorney?

Hey, maybe SS-Eric (Classic Chevrolet) could hook you up.:rolleyes:

Good Luck,
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The only way to light a fire under them was to not make any payments. You are making payments and cannot drive the car and it is depreciating every day. Whether they "deliver" the car or not it is your car and they have really no incentive to get it to you any faster. You would have been better off buying it and then taking it to a specialty shop for the add ons. Sorry to hear about your situation.
 

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The only way to light a fire under them was to not make any payments. You are making payments and cannot drive the car and it is depreciating every day. Whether they "deliver" the car or not it is your car and they have really no incentive to get it to you any faster. You would have been better off buying it and then taking it to a specialty shop for the add ons. Sorry to hear about your situation.
That would probably not work either. She isn't making payments to the dealer, but to the bank she got the auto loan from. The dealer would probably be happy if she didn't pay because the bank would repossess it and sell it back to the dealer. Metallics are difficult to match at times, they are most of the time a little different. Usually you have to blend into the other color, for your situation the top of both fenders and top of the bumper cover.
 

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The only way to light a fire under them was to not make any payments. You are making payments and cannot drive the car and it is depreciating every day. Whether they "deliver" the car or not it is your car and they have really no incentive to get it to you any faster. You would have been better off buying it and then taking it to a specialty shop for the add ons. Sorry to hear about your situation.
After some self medicating...I'm feeling much better now. :)

It would have been quicker to get the work done at a specialty shop...I think. Actually, the headers, cut-outs, sway bars and springs and HID upgrades were all done by a specialty shop...it took them six weeks. I do have a V6 and I was only able to find one local specialty shop that was willing to work on it. My dealership subcontracted the work for me and has promised to warranty ALL the modifications. I couldn't get that on my own at any specialty shop.

I really appreciate the fact that my dealership was willing to go out of their way to make me happy. The dealer really stuck his neck out there for me and I don't want to get anyone in trouble. My attorney's involvement would only mean someone's job lost, and I certainly don't want that. I couldn't (and wouldn't) have done all these mods without the advice and assistance of my GM dealer. :chevy: I make the payments, because WTH, I've got to pay for it anyway.

The purpose of my OP was not to get down on GM but to warn other SGM owners about the difficulty matching the paint. Now that I've seen Synergy Olive Green, I'm getting worried that my car will never be the beautiful color that it started out as. I could always put my original hood back on, but now with the overspray, it probably won't match either.

I WILL continue to be patient...I know this car is worth waiting for. ;)
And don't be sorry for me...life is good!
 

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Envy, Life must be good. The mods that you want cost a fortune. You obviously are doing very well for yourself. You go girl!! I wish you the best of luck with your endeavor. I like the fact that you know what you want and go for it. You are a tough cookie and I'm sure they will make it right for you.
Your car will rock when it is finally finished.:clap:
 

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so sorry bout your troubles... but yes, i've experienced the same with a 95 mustang that had a custom color red... the thing required a complete repaint to get it right... i know you fell in love with that green and i hope things go well. keep making the payments... it would only ruin your credit and cost you your dream car... let them know that you are frustrated tho... they need to hear it! maybe your salesman can put some heat on the p & b dept...
 

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I went through the same thing a few years ago with my Barbados Blue GTO. The shop couldn't match the color.

They had the regional PPG guy come to the shop to match up my color and gave me about a pint to keep on hand.
 

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shouldnt be this hard to match the color. each clor may have a different color combo than the next, but its specified in the vin info. get a new body shop.
 

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That color is probably a candy. The car is painted some type of metallic then the mid coat is like window tint. It has color but is transparent. The more you put on the darker it is. Then the clear.

Everyone thinks they will lose money by blending since they are being paid to paint those panels but the job would have been finished by now if they went into the fenders & hood. I worked at a shop that did quite a few candy jobs. One came in for a spot repair on the quarter. The boss would not let me blend into the deck lid so it was a butt match. The side which was blended looked great but the top of the quarter looked horrible but the boss BS'd the owner & it flew even though it was not right.

Like what has been said the fancy colors are beautiful but a little harder to repair. In the end the best way is to blend.
 

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i doubt the green is a 2 or 3 step pinat job. they dont really have the time for that at the plant.
 

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6 weeks for lights, exhaust and suspension? that is too long!

i did the suspension, headers and exhaust on my car in about 5 hours total.

granted the HID is a lot more involved since yours was originally not a non-RS, but a week tops!

although i will agree things move a little slower in dealerships AFTER the sell.
 
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