[mx_599]

chassis question

not sure why this was deleted... i already did a search.

is the new camaro a subframe/unibody design or rolling chassis? isn't a rolling chassis always better? or not necessarily?

would this be reason enough to not buy a convertible?

 

[Jinx]

Are you serious?

 

[brandonppr]

not sure why this was deleted... i already did a search.

is the new camaro a subframe/unibody design or rolling chasis? isn't a rolling chasis always better? or not necessarily?

would this be reason enough to not buy a convertible?

The Camaro will be a unibody car. There is no question about it.

The Camaro is a Zeta car. The G8 is also a Zeta car. Here are pics of a Zeta underpinnings: http://www.peddersusa.com/Camaro_2009.htm

The coupe and vert will both be unibody cars and they are both Zeta cars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Zeta_platform

The Zeta platform is said to be an awsome platform and very strong.

I am not sure what you are reffering to as rolling chassis. Most every car I know of is unibody with a supframe.

There may be a few exeptions such as the Corvette which has a rolling chassis:

 

[mx_599]

Are you serious?

yes. i didn't expect a long, drawn out answer. i am aware of google. just wanted short quick ones. i did a search and it looked like unibody in some diagrams but i wanted to confirm and ask the other questions as well.

i certainly didn't come up with "zeta" in a search on here. it was nice someone informed me of this so now at least i can focus my internet search a little better.

 

[mx_599]

The Camaro will be a unibody car. There is no question about it.

The Camaro is a Zeta car. The G8 is also a Zeta car. Here are pics of a Zeta underpinnings: http://www.peddersusa.com/Camaro_2009.htm

The coupe and vert will both be unibody cars and they are both Zeta cars.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Zeta_platform

The Zeta platform is said to be an awsome platform and very strong.

I am not sure what you are reffering to as rolling chassis. Most every car I know of is unibody with a supframe.

There may be a few exeptions such as the Corvette which has a rolling chassis:

thanks! i appreciate the link. i didn't know about zeta. my 1988 iroc seemed really flexy so i was just wondering.

rolling chassis -- i didn't know what to call it. but yes, i was thinking corvette. i thought that this would be better in all respects except maybe weight? ...but i can read up on the pros and cons.

it seemed like my 1988 needed subframe connectors and roll cage. i always assumed it was a poor design. i didn't know most cars were like that. i figured since corvettes are nice and they had a full chassis...that they were better.

thanks

 

[brandonppr]

The Commodore VE has a 4630 lb towing capacity, so I would assume that This car has a pretty good unibody design to be able to tow more than its own weight. The Commodore VE is a Zeta btw.

You can check out this thread form more info on that:
http://www.5thgen.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2531&highlight=towing&page=2

 

[Douge]

I would not have been terribly surprised to see a hydroformed frame rail rolling chassis though it may be cost prohibitive for the Camaro. The good news though with the Zeta platform pictured above if in fact that is what the Camaro will be built on is the engine placement slightly aft the front axle and rear mounted trans also done on the Vette should make for a very very well balanced car that should absolutely blow the Mustang away as well as being very competitive if not superior to even a BMW 3 series. Also, the way the transmission tunnel is built it adds a lot of rigidity to the car. Last but not least, the independent rear suspension. This thing is really gonna kick ass.

 

[mx_599]

I would not have been terribly surprised to see a hydroformed frame rail rolling chassis though it may be cost prohibitive for the Camaro. The good news though with the Zeta platform pictured above if in fact that is what the Camaro will be built on is the engine placement slightly aft the front axle and rear mounted trans also done on the Vette should make for a very very well balanced car that should absolutely blow the Mustang away as well as being very competitive if not superior to even a BMW 3 series. Also, the way the transmission tunnel is built it adds a lot of rigidity to the car. Last but not least, the independent rear suspension. This thing is really gonna kick ass.

thanks. you knew what i meant by rolling chassis. i know about mechanics but that doesn't mean i have to know everything about automobiles.

this thread was deleted by someone last night. kind of insulting when i donated here.

some mods here aren't particularly welcoming.

if the only people who buy the new camaro are knowledgeable ones on this site, i can assure you it won't be in production very long.

 

[brandonppr]

thanks. you knew what i meant by rolling chassis. i know about mechanics but that doesn't mean i have to know everything about automobiles.

this thread was deleted by someone last night. kind of insulting when i donated here.

some mods here aren't particularly welcoming.

if the only people who buy the new camaro are knowledgeable ones on this site, i can assure you it won't be in production very long.

No need to get upset. I think it was a simple misunderstanding..

As for the pic above, I want to be clear that that pic is NOT the Camaro or Zeta. That pic IS a Corvette.

The pics of the Zeta platform are here:
http://www.peddersusa.com/Camaro_2009.htm

 

[OverAnxious]

Unlike the 3rd Gen Camaros, the CF4 and the 5th gen were designed to be convertibles from the start. I don't forsee any structural issues

 

[Douge]

No need to get upset. I think it was a simple misunderstanding..

As for the pic above, I want to be clear that that pic is NOT the Camaro or Zeta. That pic IS a Corvette.

The pics of the Zeta platform are here:
http://www.peddersusa.com/Camaro_2009.htm

I was pretty excited for minute there. I should have known that.

 

[Jinx]

I apologize then. I guess I expected people to know more about cars in general and understand diagrams.

Things to know about the camaro:

-it will have 4 wheels
-it will have disc brakes, not drum
-it will have tubeless tires without a white wall
-it will have a unibody chassis

Hope that may help.atriot:

 

[Luwinkle]

Aww, no whitewall? ****, what a jip .

 

[Jinx]

Aww, no whitewall? ****, what a jip .

I know. I was hoping for to put some wire spoke Daytons with coker tires on my 5th gen. But oh well, things change in 20 years.

 

[CUONCRS]

Aww, no whitewall? ****, what a jip .

Don't worry, GM may add it later as an option once they see the money that the aftermarket is making off of whitewalls.

 

[Luwinkle]

My first car had whitewalls...it was the best looking thing on the car.