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You know, I thought the HHR was the second ugliest car i have ever seen(only beaten by an aztek). After seeing the ss version...WOW, i was amazed at how a few simple body moldings can kick up the cars looks alot. and with a decent chunk of HP, its got my approval to be an SS. I am not a fan of giving out the badge randonly, but I think its deserved for the HHR.
 

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I'm glad that they are paying more attention to what gets an "SS" badge. Just slapping a sticker on whatever has really killed the badge.
ABSOLUTELY!!! However, with Mr. Lutz in charge, I don't think we have to worry about cheesy spoilers and tape stripes slapped on a wheezer and calling it a Super Sport. Thank you Mr. Lutz.:patriot:
 

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I used to work at a chevy dealer and have a rather funny story.



about 5 months after the Aveo's came out we still hadn't sold many. so the manager had us go through the lot to get all the Aveo's prepped to get racing stripes put on to make them look like MINI coopers. There was even one in the showroom. I was never so ashamed...
 

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I used to work at a chevy dealer and have a rather funny story.



about 5 months after the Aveo's came out we still hadn't sold many. so the manager had us go through the lot to get all the Aveo's prepped to get racing stripes put on to make them look like MINI coopers. There was even one in the showroom. I was never so ashamed...
It would take quite a bit of paint to make an Aveo look like a Mini :lol:
 

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So what is the SS version of the Camaro going to look like, if they follow this plan? Jinx, you feel like mocking up a Camaro with spoilers and stuff to see what happens if they do?
 

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So what is the SS version of the Camaro going to look like, if they follow this plan? Jinx, you feel like mocking up a Camaro with spoilers and stuff to see what happens if they do?
Hopefully there will be no gaudy salt/dirt-holding body cladding on the Camaro. maybe a subtle rear spoiler :cool:
 

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No SS badges for the HHR. Call it the LT or something.

GM has given away too many SS badges and watered down the logo and image. They might as well call it a HHR Z06. Super Sport should goto V8 powered cars. ****, can't GM find some different letters to say 4 pop or V6 performance? Yes, but they want to rely on the SS image of old to push lackluster vehicles.
 

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No SS badges for the HHR. Call it the LT or something.

GM has given away too many SS badges and watered down the logo and image. They might as well call it a HHR Z06. Super Sport should goto V8 powered cars. ****, can't GM find some different letters to say 4 pop or V6 performance? Yes, but they want to rely on the SS image of old to push lackluster vehicles.
Ever since the late 80s, V6 and 4 cyl cars have been putting down some respectable numbers. With cars like the Solstice, Sky Redline, Cobalt SS, etc running off of GM showrooms, it is only natural for something like this in the HHR to capture the younger market :cool:

Remember what SS was and GM is currently using it for. On vehicles like the Trailblazer (best value today IMO), Impala, etc. Same thing it was in the sixties :cool:
 

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No..it's not about the cyclinders.. It's about what a SS used to be compared to what is is today. Does the youth market mentioned know what a SS means or the heritage associated to the name? They can hype up the HHR all they want. Good for them. I'm just saying what many people know and GM has admitted to, that the SS logo was thrown around too easily. I was asking can't GM find some different letters or numbers to say performance.


Since GM is bringing back RWD performance in the Zeta. SS is quite befitting for the Camaro SS and Lumina/Impala SS.
 

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No..it's not about the cyclinders.. It's about what a SS used to be compared to what is is today. Does the youth market mentioned know what a SS means or the heritage associated to the name? They can hype up the HHR all they want. Good for them. I'm just saying what many people know and GM has admitted to, that the SS logo was thrown around too easily. I was asking can't GM find some different letters or numbers to say performance.


Since GM is bringing back RWD performance in the Zeta. SS is quite befitting for the Camaro SS and Lumina/Impala SS.
Think about what SS was and what it is today.
The SS package is/was about taking a regular production car and adding a package of options that improve performance and handling as well as add a few exterior features like paint, emblems, maybe a spoiler, hood and different wheels.

I don't see any difference. Again, GM already released a statement earlier this year that they have scaled back on what they will use an SS package on and how they will do that. The Trailblazer SS is a fine example of that as is this HHR SS and the Cobalt SS :cool:

Your last statement mentions RWD, is it that you would only like to see an SS package on RWD platforms?
 

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I was saying for the youth market GM could of used a different designation than SS. They could use any alpha numerical designation, so why SS? Because SS had a history of performance from the V8 Musclecar era. GM cheaped it out and admitted it was wrong in doing so. GM could right the wrong and with the return of RWD platforms use SS as a true high performance designation.(Higher than available in 4 cylinder or V6 performance cars.)



GM said it would change what it was doing. You Guys on the SS everywhere bandwagon would ok SS on all models with your thinking. Anything with an appearance package and maybe a performance boost. Aveo SS?. When every model can be an SS you are not making the SS package anything really special.
 

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So, despite saying it's not about the cylinders, you ARE saying it's about the cylinders? And if it's FWD or RWD?

SS is a performance boost, without the performance boost it's not an SS. Every SS designation had a performance boost. Hell, even the Monte Carlo SS got a V8...as did the Impala SS.



 

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I'm typing this slowly so you can understand.

SS should mean HIGH performance. You guys are thinking " It's higher hp than the other models in it's line so SS is ok with me."

You guys aren't going to change my mind that it is wrong to slap SS on everything. I'm not a GM leghumper that agrees with everything they do and follows along with the crowd just because everyone else does. When I agree, I'm behind them. When I disagree, I voice my concerns. You guys seem offended that I have opinions and I'm not easily swayed when you guys try to pressure your views on me.
 

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I'm typing this slowly so you can understand.

SS should mean HIGH performance. You guys are thinking " It's higher hp than the other models in it's line so SS is ok with me."

You guys aren't going to change my mind that it is wrong to slap SS on everything. I'm not a GM leghumper that agrees with everything they do and follows along with the crowd just because everyone else does. When I agree, I'm behind them. When I disagree, I voice my concerns. You guys seem offended that I have opinions and I'm not easily swayed when you guys try to pressure your views on me.
I don't think anyone is attmepting to change your mind or pressure you in any way :cool:

I am trying to show you there isn't much difference to what SS is today and what it was in the Sixties.

Define High performance?

There werent' many 4 or 6 cylinder motors in the sixties. If there were, there would have been bumped up versions with the SS badge. They used V8s and the SS packages had modified V8 motors.

Put that logic in todays vehicles with the current technology :cool::patriot:
 
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