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Does this signal the end of the run for the Monte Carlo ? By rules, NASCAR "bodies" ( and I use that term loosely since the cars no longer resemble production models AT ALL) must be based on prodution cars available for sale to the public.

Source: Chevy, Dodge to change models

By Bob Margolis, Yahoo! Sports
The Charger and Monte Carlo's days in NASCAR are numbered.

Beginning in 2007, Dodge and Chevrolet will campaign new models in Nextel Cup competition, Yahoo! Sports has learned.

Dodge will run the Avenger, while Chevrolet will run the Impala SS, according to sources with some of NASCAR's manufacturers. The change also was indicated in a technical bulletin distributed to all teams last week. Both Dodge and Chevy soon will announce that they have been given approval by NASCAR to change to the new models, with Chevy's announcement possibly coming as soon as this week.

The street version of the new Dodge Avenger, which has been dubbed "the mini-Charger," was introduced at the Paris auto show in September. It is an all-new model that is smaller than, but similar in design to, the Dodge Charger currently being used in NASCAR.

The Avenger street model. (AP)

The Avenger is being touted as a direct competitor to the Honda Accord, Ford Fusion and Toyota Camry.

According to the sources, the stock car version has been approved for use by Dodge teams for both the current Nextel Cup car as well as the Car of Tomorrow version, starting next season.

Dodge had high hopes for the Charger when it was introduced back into NASCAR competition in 2005. However, it was plagued with aerodynamic handling problems during its first year because it was designed to make use of a larger rear spoiler that eventually was outlawed by NASCAR well after the final design for the Charger was completed.

Those aerodynamic issues weren't successfully addressed until this season.
The Avenger joins the Coronet, Mirada, Magnum and Intrepid as nameplates Dodge has used in NASCAR. The Charger nameplate was used twice, first in the 1970s and again in 2005.

Chevrolet's use of the Impala marks the second time around for that nameplate in NASCAR, as well. The Impala was the Chevrolet model of choice in NASCAR from the mid-'50s until the late '60s. Chevy also has campaigned the Bel Air, Lumina, Chevelle, Laguna and, of course, the Monte Carlo.

However, unlike its Dodge counterpart, the Impala SS will only be used by Chevrolet teams for their Car of Tomorrow, according to sources.

Manufacturers and NASCAR also are continuing to move forward with plans to change all of the models used in the Busch Series, perhaps as soon as the 2010 season. That change would put smaller, sportier models into competition, like the retro-designed Ford Mustang, Chevrolet Camaro and Dodge Challenger – as well as the Toyota Solara.

Veteran motorsports writer Bob Margolis is Yahoo! Sports' NASCAR reporter. Send Bob a question or comment for potential use in a future column or webcast.
 

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I'm not sure how sales of the Monte Carlo are going, but nobody I know is interested in it.

There are already enough 4 door vehicles in Nascar anyway, why not add another LOL

Personally, they should go the way of IROC and all have the exact same chassis and body and have the powertrain and driver be the real difference. NASCAR is a long way from stock car racing...
 

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MC sales haven't been good for a few years.
While I really like the MC SS and the '06 redesign, neither seem to be helping sales any.

Not much will change on the NASCAR car other than the nameplates since the cars look so similar.
But this definitely may signal the end of Monte Carlo. :(
 

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Personally, they should go the way of IROC and all have the exact same chassis and body and have the powertrain and driver be the real difference. NASCAR is a long way from stock car racing...
That is basically what NASCAR is. They went to "common templates" in 2002, meaning except for the nose all the cars are identical. Teams get to massage the bodies within the rules as long as they fit the templates, but basically everybody starts with the same body. The chassis are different too but again they must conform to the rules.
 

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That is basically what NASCAR is. They went to "common templates" in 2002, meaning except for the nose all the cars are identical. Teams get to massage the bodies within the rules as long as they fit the templates, but basically everybody starts with the same body. The chassis are different too but again they must conform to the rules.
There is always too much whining about "Ford got this, GM got this" Put the same bodies on the cars and be done with it, that is all I am saying...

Run different paint schemes, decals, powertrain combos. Yes, they would always find something else to complain about, but it would be one less thing :D
 

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There is always too much whining about "Ford got this, GM got this" Put the same bodies on the cars and be done with it, that is all I am saying...
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And I'm saying its already done that way. The only squabbling left is over engines, and frankly you don't hear very much of that at all vs. a few years ago. The chassis are not brand-specific, they are shop/team specific...only certain shops/teams build their own, and most teams actually buy their chassis from one of the few that build them. A lot of the testing teams do go into finding ways to improve the chassis to make the suspension work better, like changing shock mounting points, etc.
 

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Personally, they should go the way of IROC and all have the exact same chassis and body and have the powertrain and driver be the real difference. NASCAR is a long way from stock car racing...

i agree with that
 

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I for one think this is the downfall of NASCAR as a sport..
Bringing Toyota into it..and having the CoT and all these rules..whats the point??

the Bush series might be the more popular one come 2010
 

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I agree about Toyota, that really pisses me off. :mad:

I'm hoping the 20 car sends a Camry into the wall on Lap 1 of the 2007 Daytona 500. :D

It's true, NASCAR isn't hardly stock car racing, but it did start that way.
It has just evolved into what it is now.
Not stock car racing, but they're not gonna change their name hehe.
 

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I'll never understand the bitching about Toyota entering Nascar. They have already been in the truck series.
Toyota will add the already growing fanbase making Nascar even bigger.
I'd bet a large number of people who consider themselves Nascar fans drive Toyotas or other imports...

Some people need to get over it :cool:
 

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yea it is funny that "stock car" means the type of car they race now and not the cars the take off the showroom..
 
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