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The Camaro SS stability control will have a track mode, a performance mode and a setting that fully disables stability and traction control. Stability/traction control for all Camaros can be fully disabled, but Camaro SSs with the six-speed manual also get a launch control feature.

The different modes are cool but is the launch control just drive by wire like the GTO has? Cause that isn't so great.
 

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God I hope not. The RAM is "drive by wire" and I hate not having immediate throttle response. God dammit, if I put my foot down I should be going sideways and burning off as much rubber as I want.
 

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I hate hitting the gas pedal and what you are actually doing is asking the computer permission to go faster.:mad::mad:

Like Devryn said, I pushed the pedal for a reason don't ask, just do.
 

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yeah the first car I drove that was drive by wire was a mercedes C230 "loaner".. my car was getting services I HATED that car! At every start I would FLOOR IT and the car didnt move.. I had MUCH higher expectations from a mercedes - never owning or driving one before.. total turn off!!:BangHead::BangHead:
 

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I dont have an issue with it as long as you can turn it off with a "ASR" button or something. It sounds like you are talking about something different tho...
 

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I dont have an issue with it as long as you can turn it off with a "ASR" button or something. It sounds like you are talking about something different tho...
Not sure what an 'ASR' button is, but if you're asking about turning off the drive-by-wire, then the answer is "no, you can't".

You either have drive-by-wire or you have a cable.
 

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I wouldn't mind drive by wire if #1, you could completely disable all traction control, and #2, there wasn't any hesitation...The RAM hesitates likes a mofo.
 

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Not sure what an 'ASR' button is, but if you're asking about turning off the drive-by-wire, then the answer is "no, you can't".

You either have drive-by-wire or you have a cable.
My 02 SS had an ASR (acceleration slip regulator) button on the dash. When it was on (by default) and the tires started to spin the computer could "push" the gas pedal back at you until the wheels got traction again. Sucked when you would dump the clutch to do a burn out or get out into traffic and forget it was on. :BangHead:
 

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From my experience, launch control is a button you turn off or not engage in the first place. Top Gear often refers to it as "the button that makes all the people around you think you know how to drive". (I'm not referring to the drive by wire, just launch control.)

I found this forum:
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=98504

Where I found the following video. Though the car in the video is a ford, the gearbox appears to be a Tremec6060 (after some googling-verification). This video demonstrates the car's launch with and without launch control:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A66GJ-hgcK8
 

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There wasn't much of a difference :confused:
And the tires didn't start spinning till the car was in the move. Maybe it was the slick painted white stripe that cause it to spin :lol:
 

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I have ASR in my 94 vette. It sucks. I turn it off everytime I get in the car. It didn't even help when it snowed. Backing off the accelerator is not a way to get traction.
 

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I love how DBW throttle bodies have gotten the stigmata that there is some kind of lag between the pedal and the throttle body opening. There isn't. However there is lag felt on some vehicles, on the car before last I owned that was DBW throttle, it had lag, but it also had a 26 lbs flexplate on a little 3.0L V6 that barely made over 190 ft-lbs at the motor. There was also an issue with the factory presets on fueling and some weirdness in ignition timing witnessed through a Snap-On MT2500, that was also factory preset.

But I could of been ignorant and just blamed it on that blasted new technology like my grandmother used to blame everything on when it didn't work right. Using two cameras synced up, I proved there was no delay or lag or processing time from when the pedal was pressed to the floor and the throttle blade opening to WOT.

Consider it a blessing that there are no more cables to bind or break and that it provides an overall cleaner look to the engine bay.
 

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I love how DBW throttle bodies have gotten the stigmata that there is some kind of lag between the pedal and the throttle body opening. There isn't. However there is lag felt on some vehicles, on the car before last I owned that was DBW throttle, it had lag, but it also had a 26 lbs flexplate on a little 3.0L V6 that barely made over 190 ft-lbs at the motor. There was also an issue with the factory presets on fueling and some weirdness in ignition timing witnessed through a Snap-On MT2500, that was also factory preset.

But I could of been ignorant and just blamed it on that blasted new technology like my grandmother used to blame everything on when it didn't work right. Using two cameras synced up, I proved there was no delay or lag or processing time from when the pedal was pressed to the floor and the throttle blade opening to WOT.

Consider it a blessing that there are no more cables to bind or break and that it provides an overall cleaner look to the engine bay.
I'm not sure that your experience can be classified under every Drive by Wire system. The Hemi RAMS have a huge problem with lag, that can be completely removed with a proper computer tune. The lag is a part of the traction control program.
 

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Guys and gals, DBW is not the evil technology that's here to steal your throttle response. It's quite advanced, with only a few exceptions experiencing a lag. There are a lot of parameters that can be changed with a car's tune (short term/ long term fuel trims and spark advance to name a few) that will enhance throttle tip-in if desired. I stand by this technological movement, and nobody can change my mind!
 

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I'm not sure that your experience can be classified under every Drive by Wire system. The Hemi RAMS have a huge problem with lag, that can be completely removed with a proper computer tune. The lag is a part of the traction control program.
Which again proves my point, that it is not the DBW itself, but factory presets on fuel or timing maps.
 

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So turning launch control on might be a preset in the computer to create "lag", with DBW, off the line to help keep from wheelspin?
 

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A "heavy flex plate" would cause a slower rev not a delay in the rev.
 
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