I'm proud to say I finally did this: I was talking to a guy at Quick Trip about his new GT500 KR (He was filling up on 91 Octane and two things of Octane boost. ), and we got in to specifics, of his 5.4 Supercharged engine with a 2.2 Supercharger on it. Get in to dynamics and whatnot, and he asks me when I'll get a real car, (Pointedly making fun of my Monte Carlo, which I politely ignored, since I somewhat agree..), and I told him: 2010 SS Camaro, 6-speed. He laughed and told me I didn't know what was going to be under the hood. To which I corrected him, "Go home and get on Road and Track, and look up 2010 Camaro." I proceeded to inform him of the 418bhp, independent suspension, close-ratio 6-speed, and whatnot. He then promptly informed me that I'd only be putting around 380 to the ground, which I agreed to. I then pointed out that the KR Body Package didnt add any horsepower to his car. His was essentially a GT500 with the niceties of a KR. Anyways, we had a decent conversation, and I was finally able to give people Camaro specs!