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NASCAR's Joe Gibbs Racing wants a larger leadership role with its manufacturer partner, but it wouldn't have had that opportunity as long as it was aligned with General Motors.

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I knew this was coming, but it still makes me sick. :barf:

Here's something interesting...

A statement from Joe Gibbs upon the announcement in 2003 that they would switch from Pontiac to Chevy:
What do the drivers think about the switch?
"If you think about a drivers makeup, what they're wanting to do is just make sure you have absolutely the best motor, the best crew cheif, the best crew, and the best car, because you only have a certain number of years to do this."

Do you think Tony Stewart believes that Toyota is the best car and offers the best motor?
Do you think Tony Stewart is wondering if he can win another championship in a Toyota?
Could Tony Stewart end up leaving JGR due to JGR trying to save a dime by having the Toyota engine program?
Is it a dime holding up a dollar, and possibly holding back a champion?

( quote and commentary from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyhmznG40_o )

Seriously.
JGR is not only a sellout, but also a lunatic since he doesn't even believe what he said himself.

Just further proof that NASCAR doesn't care about the racing or the fans.
It's all about money, and nothing else matters.
Eventually NASCAR will learn the hard way that it should listen to the fans.

I'm still a pretty avid fan of NASCAR, been following it for almost 25 years.
But this Toyota BS pisses me off. :angry:
 

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Isn't the Toyota always the last car? I don't watch NASCAR..I respect it..but I was never a fan of it. It's an AMERICAN thing..and putting in a foreign manufacturer is just bad. And before Sluuuuuuug gets on my ass for Toyota bashing..I'd feel the same way if they put a BMW in Nascar. It's just not right.

They'll learn like the Big 3 had to learn in the 90's..listen to the fans or you're going to be in biiiig trouble. ;)



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Yeah, Toyota is performing poorly so far in the Nextel Cup Series, and marginally better in the Busch Series.

Why you would switch away from the dominant make to the one that can hardly qualify a car is beyond me.
The only possible answer is for the money.
JGR is a sell out indeed.

I predict Tony Stewart will leave JGR this off-season.
He's saying he's ok with it just to make the boss happy, but believe me, he's shopping.
 

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Yep time for the Camaro to invade some of the japanese market racing. Forget drifting I'm talking JTGC type stuff.
 

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QFTFT!!!!

AMEN!

and I agree 100%

I knew this was coming, but it still makes me sick. :barf:

Here's something interesting...

A statement from Joe Gibbs upon the announcement in 2003 that they would switch from Pontiac to Chevy:
What do the drivers think about the switch?
"If you think about a drivers makeup, what they're wanting to do is just make sure you have absolutely the best motor, the best crew cheif, the best crew, and the best car, because you only have a certain number of years to do this."

Do you think Tony Stewart believes that Toyota is the best car and offers the best motor?
Do you think Tony Stewart is wondering if he can win another championship in a Toyota?
Could Tony Stewart end up leaving JGR due to JGR trying to save a dime by having the Toyota engine program?
Is it a dime holding up a dollar, and possibly holding back a champion?


( quote and commentary from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyhmznG40_o )

Seriously.
JGR is not only a sellout, but also a lunatic since he doesn't even believe what he said himself.

Just further proof that NASCAR doesn't care about the racing or the fans.
It's all about money, and nothing else matters.
Eventually NASCAR will learn the hard way that it should listen to the fans.

I'm still a pretty avid fan of NASCAR, been following it for almost 25 years.
But this Toyota BS pisses me off.
:angry:

your telling me the core audience of southerners who enjoy Nascar and from the things I hear sticking up for american car companies are just going to sit back and watch Toyota slowley come into NASCAR like they did everything else?? Why there is no fan backlash is beyond me..really..I think this was my last year even considering watching NASCAR...BIG F'in JOKE!
 

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Anyone with the last name of "France" should be punched in the face, anyway.
The only way to let NASCAR know that the fans won't put up with this is to do something that won't happen...to not go to the races. Have them show on TV to totally empty seats. It'd be really effective, but it won't happen.

Best place to hit big business is the only place it hurts..the wallet.



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My interest in nascar has gone down in the last few years. I hate that the cars don't even resemble the production cars anymore. Now this whole crapota thing just makes me sick.
 

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I don't mind the foreign drivers the much.
But I do mind the foreign tracks they've started going to.
They should stay at tracks in the USA.

And as you can probably tell, I think foreign cars have absolutely no place in NASCAR at all, and about 90% of NASCAR fans would agree with me.
 

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Nope, he just doesn't wanna hear the truth.

Ultimately, he will kill NASCAR.
If Brain keeps doing what he's doing with NASCAR, it will be dead in 10 years or less.

It's a **** shame. :(
VERY well said Tim! ;)

NASCAR is losing TV ratings, as well as people in the stands. I chose NOT to renew my tickets to Talladega after having them for numerous years, and I'll be giving up my seats at Charlotte and Daytona after this year.
 
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