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Results of the J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Study indicate that at least two [Ford and GM] of Detroit's Big Three automakers are on the right track and looking strong in the eyes of U.S. consumers.

If there were any doubts about reports that the American auto industry is on the mend, they were laid to rest today with the release of J.D. Power and Associates' 2010 Initial Quality Study (IQS). Domestic brands, as a whole, demonstrated higher initial quality than the imports for the first time in the study's 24-year history.

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http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...0430&GT1=22009
 

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There is not one automaker that is MADE in America however there is an automaker that is Assembled in America.

Welcome to todays time EVERYONE out sources to other countries such as Mexico , Canada and ETC.

I love hear Ford people tell me my car wasnt made in American and there's was :lol:
 

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Well, those days of "Made in America" meaning where the product was manufactured will never be back BUT we can make the phrase mean something with respect to quality and reliability again. Originally the term meant exactly that but over the years, it morphed itself into a more patriotic meaning and people started to ignore the quality aspect.

Over the past 30 yeaers, if it was "Made in America" it was assumed to be a good product but we all know in hindsight that this just wasn't always true. In fact, many companies took Americans for granted, including GM - they thought they could get away with producing junk because if it was American, patriotic people would automatically buy it. Look where that attitude got them.....:facepalm:
 

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Well, those days of "Made in America" meaning where the product was manufactured will never be back BUT we can make the phrase mean something with respect to quality and reliability again. Originally the term meant exactly that but over the years, it morphed itself into a more patriotic meaning and people started to ignore the quality aspect.

Over the past 30 yeaers, if it was "Made in America" it was assumed to be a good product but we all know in hindsight that this just wasn't always true. In fact, many companies took Americans for granted, including GM - they thought they could get away with producing junk because if it was American, patriotic people would automatically buy it. Look where that attitude got them.....:facepalm:
Agreed. But at last it appears that this is no longer the case. Our domestic automakers have stepped up their game, and faith in American cars is being restored. Why does everyone always have nothing but negative responses to this? 3 whole pages full of negative responses to this goodnews post on a different forum... :mad:
 

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Agreed. But at last it appears that this is no longer the case. Our domestic automakers have stepped up their game, and faith in American cars is being restored. Why does everyone always have nothing but negative responses to this? 3 whole pages full of negative responses to this goodnews post on a different forum... :mad:
Unfortunately it will take a few years for reality to sink in for most people. It's always that way - Toyota stills sells a crapload even though their quality has dropped.
 

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Agreed. But at last it appears that this is no longer the case. Our domestic automakers have stepped up their game, and faith in American cars is being restored. Why does everyone always have nothing but negative responses to this? 3 whole pages full of negative responses to this goodnews post on a different forum... :mad:
I Agree the domestic's are being built better, but when the imports still to this day feel superior in quality is domestics really stepping up their game?.. or are they still falling short... i really like the camaro and corvette's but Gm has to focus on the mass vehicles .... still 2 this day i can ride in a Honda or Nissan and it feels more solid and reliable :(
 

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I Agree the domestic's are being built better, but when the imports still to this day feel superior in quality is domestics really stepping up their game?.. or are they still falling short... i really like the camaro and corvette's but Gm has to focus on the mass vehicles .... still 2 this day i can ride in a Honda or Nissan and it feels more solid and reliable :(
I wouldn't say that the Japanese or Germans are stepping up their game but the Koreans - HOLY CRAP :eek:!!! I am sure that GM is nowhere near finished with respect to striving for quality. Problem is that the Koreans keep moving the goal line.....
 

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I was just happy to see this JD Power study turned up so many people that believe in American cars again. Guess none of those people are on Camaro forums :(

Hylton, I agree that GM's work is not done, nor should it ever be. Just glad to see the tide is turning
 

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I was just happy to see this JD Power study turned up so many people that believe in American cars again. Guess none of those people are on Camaro forums :(
Just be happy you didn't post that on a ricer forum - they'd have slaughtered you!
 

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Just be happy you didn't post that on a ricer forum - they'd have slaughtered you!
I posted the same article on a different Camaro forum, could've sworn I was on hondacivic.com or something by mistake... Dunno wtf
 

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There is not one automaker that is MADE in America however there is an automaker that is Assembled in America.

Welcome to todays time EVERYONE out sources to other countries such as Mexico , Canada and ETC.

I love hear Ford people tell me my car wasnt made in American and there's was :lol:
GM, Ford, and Chryslers have been making cars in Canada for 100 years. Its hardly considering oursourcing, when our workers make as much if not slightly more than our American counterparts. My truck for example had the majority of the parts made it Canada but it was assembled in Michigan. Does that mean its American or Canadian??
 

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I would agree about Japanese automakers not advancing lately... the past 5 years ago they've stayed relatively stagnant, and even fell back a little.
I would echo the same opinion towards German (and other European) automakers, too.

Korean automakers are making LEAPS right now. Look at Hyundai, huge gains since 5 years ago.
But they better be careful and not "pull a Toyota" by growing too fast and letting quality tank.

US automakers have rebounded significantly, to the point where the quality playing field is about even wherever you go. The negative perception is still there (mostly thanks to the media), but that will vanish in time as long as the US automakers keep doing things right!
 

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I would agree about Japanese automakers not advancing lately... the past 5 years ago they've stayed relatively stagnant, and even fell back a little.
I would echo the same opinion towards German (and other European) automakers, too.

Korean automakers are making LEAPS right now. Look at Hyundai, huge gains since 5 years ago.
But they better be careful and not "pull a Toyota" by growing too fast and letting quality tank.

US automakers have rebounded significantly, to the point where the quality playing field is about even wherever you go. The negative perception is still there (mostly thanks to the media), but that will vanish in time as long as the US automakers keep doing things right!
Very true, I'm just glad they're on the right track! Hopefully the big 2 will keep it up- if I never hear another person say "You should've bought a [insert import here], they last longer" it'll be too soon.
 

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They are called farmers.
 

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Yeah but the people who harvest the crop are made in Mexico....:p
Another younin wanting to argue semantics....so boring......:lol::thumbsup:
 

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This thread is way off course, as always. This one was doomed from day 1.

Not here to argue over where the damned car is assembled. Started this thread to celebrate the revival of our domestic auto industry (2/3 of it any way)

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