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I have never ordered a New car before I always seemed to find one I liked on the Carlot and have the feeling thats not going to happen this time around with the new camaro. First off does that normally jack up the price when doing that..meaning cost more ? Or is it just harder to get deals worked out with the dealer since he is doing you a favor by getting you a certain car.
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I'm curious about this answer, too. I just imagined you could go into a dealer, say I want this car, this color, these packages, and then you can negotiate the price.

What I would really like is to be able to option it out on the internet, and jst pick a dealer to get "credit" for the sale. That would limit the markup and overhead in my eyes, but still allow the dealer to get credit for the sale, get some cash, and all for doing a little paperwork.
 

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I think we'll have to wait a while for the car industry to catch up with the times on that one! Buying a car like that online would be entirely way too easy and make too much sense, ya know?! No more dealer markup, no more shark infested car lots, and no more headaches after you get the keys from haggling with the salesman! :BangHead: Just the car you want at MSRP delivered to a pickup point on the map, where you can walk in pick up the keys and flip off the sales manager as you drive away! LOL
 

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Yeah pretty much you go to the dealer, find a salesman, pick the car, color, and options you want.
MSRP will be shown on a printout.

Then let the price negotiating begin!
Then the order is placed, and several weeks later, your car arrives! :)


Now, as far as the online thing goes... you can *kinda* do that......kinda.
You can go online and price out what you want and make all those decisions ahead of time.
Print out the final version, bring it to the dealer, find the salesman and say "I want THIS!" and hand him the printout.

Then negotiate the price, and place the order.
 

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Yeah, I got 2 VW dealers to call me to offer me 2007 GTIs at sweet prices. Too bad their interest rates were around 12%. :lol:
 

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I've order 2 cars and the it's always gone like this:

Build your car online first and bring in the printout.
The dealer has an order entry system on his computer. He asks you what options you want and he enters those codes colors, etc. After everything has been entered into their order bank, they hand you a printout, to verify everything is correct. It will also list the MSRP. A few weeks later, the dealer calls back and lets you know that your car has been "preferenced", which means, you car now has a scheduled build date and they give you that date. In most cases, expect to wait about 6 weeks for delivery. BTW, when i've ordered cars, I've never had to put down any deposit.

It's not more expensive to order, UNLESS they have inventory that they really need to get rid of and they are pushing selling them instead.

On another note, i've also got my dealer to locate my cars. This works by them entered the RPO codes for options or colors that you're looking for and searching for cars so equipped in their sales zone. My last car was located and it did cost me about $250 more, as they had to send a driver to Western VA from NE NC to exchange a car and bring mine back.

I prefer ordering, as I don't want a car that been sitting on a lot, been rained on, scratched and that other people have test driven. Yes, i'm picky. But sometimes, the wait it worth it.
 

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Ya it seems like the safe way to go to make sure it's exactly what you want and the condition you want it in. I think that is the way I'm going to go with my car: ORDER!! :D
 

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I can only imagin how long the wait would be for a custom optioned camaro. Can you imagine how many people will be doing this to get their exact stripe and color options. The first year will be a tough one for this kind of thing.
 

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Long enough to get a ticket to Canada, and a trip up to Oshawa organized, hopefully.
 

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I've order 2 cars and the it's always gone like this:

Build your car online first and bring in the printout.
The dealer has an order entry system on his computer. He asks you what options you want and he enters those codes colors, etc. After everything has been entered into their order bank, they hand you a printout, to verify everything is correct. It will also list the MSRP. A few weeks later, the dealer calls back and lets you know that your car has been "preferenced", which means, you car now has a scheduled build date and they give you that date. In most cases, expect to wait about 6 weeks for delivery. BTW, when i've ordered cars, I've never had to put down any deposit.

It's not more expensive to order, UNLESS they have inventory that they really need to get rid of and they are pushing selling them instead.

On another note, i've also got my dealer to locate my cars. This works by them entered the RPO codes for options or colors that you're looking for and searching for cars so equipped in their sales zone. My last car was located and it did cost me about $250 more, as they had to send a driver to Western VA from NE NC to exchange a car and bring mine back.

I prefer ordering, as I don't want a car that been sitting on a lot, been rained on, scratched and that other people have test driven. Yes, i'm picky. But sometimes, the wait it worth it.

Good Post ! :D Ty
 

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I've order 2 cars and the it's always gone like this:

Build your car online first and bring in the printout.
The dealer has an order entry system on his computer. He asks you what options you want and he enters those codes colors, etc. After everything has been entered into their order bank, they hand you a printout, to verify everything is correct. It will also list the MSRP. A few weeks later, the dealer calls back and lets you know that your car has been "preferenced", which means, you car now has a scheduled build date and they give you that date. In most cases, expect to wait about 6 weeks for delivery. BTW, when i've ordered cars, I've never had to put down any deposit.

It's not more expensive to order, UNLESS they have inventory that they really need to get rid of and they are pushing selling them instead.

On another note, i've also got my dealer to locate my cars. This works by them entered the RPO codes for options or colors that you're looking for and searching for cars so equipped in their sales zone. My last car was located and it did cost me about $250 more, as they had to send a driver to Western VA from NE NC to exchange a car and bring mine back.

I prefer ordering, as I don't want a car that been sitting on a lot, been rained on, scratched and that other people have test driven. Yes, i'm picky. But sometimes, the wait it worth it.
And don't forget , when you order from the factory you will always get a discount. Its called option # 1 . This is a better deal for you vs picking one off the lot. Always ask the sales guy/girl what the difference is with regards to this little known fact.
 

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When you order this way, are you still bound to the original color options of the car, or can you open it up to any color GM may have in there database? Maybe a color they have, but use on another car?
 

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I've order 2 cars and the it's always gone like this:

Build your car online first and bring in the printout.
The dealer has an order entry system on his computer. He asks you what options you want and he enters those codes colors, etc. After everything has been entered into their order bank, they hand you a printout, to verify everything is correct. It will also list the MSRP. A few weeks later, the dealer calls back and lets you know that your car has been "preferenced", which means, you car now has a scheduled build date and they give you that date. In most cases, expect to wait about 6 weeks for delivery. BTW, when i've ordered cars, I've never had to put down any deposit.

It's not more expensive to order, UNLESS they have inventory that they really need to get rid of and they are pushing selling them instead.

On another note, i've also got my dealer to locate my cars. This works by them entered the RPO codes for options or colors that you're looking for and searching for cars so equipped in their sales zone. My last car was located and it did cost me about $250 more, as they had to send a driver to Western VA from NE NC to exchange a car and bring mine back.

I prefer ordering, as I don't want a car that been sitting on a lot, been rained on, scratched and that other people have test driven. Yes, i'm picky. But sometimes, the wait it worth it.
Right...but who pays MSRP anymore? Can you still negotiate the final price of the car before it even gets ordered? That way you know how much you're paying and when the car is delivered you just walk in, sign, and drive off?

How does the negotiating aspect of the deal work? Or when you order...there simply is no negotiation???

Maybe that new car dealer guy can chime in on this. Forgot his username.

EDIT: Camaro Scotty is his username. Where ya at Scotty???? Beam me up. :rotflmao:
 

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When you order this way, are you still bound to the original color options of the car, or can you open it up to any color GM may have in there database? Maybe a color they have, but use on another car?


Unfortunately, you have to stick with what's offered.
 

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Keep in mind that dealers get a commission of 3% on the sale, straight from the manufacturer. And there are two main things to keep in mind: MSRP and Invoice. If you've ever seen a dealer offer $100 over invoice, they pay invoice to get it, they keep the $100, and then get rebate from factory for 3%.

MSRP is the "recommended" sales price, which will be above invoice. It's what the manufacturer "thinks" it should sell for, which includes a little more profit for the dealer built in.

Dealers then add on their own profit margins in aftermarket things like scotch guard, undercoating, overcoating, and sometimes even just a plain old dealer prep fee. Those can be whittled down usually.

The problem is, when you have a hot car, that is selling like wildfire, the dealer knows that if you don't want to pay out the nose, there's someone standing right behind you that will.

Or at least this is the way it was explained to me a few years ago. Maybe it has changed.
 

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And don't forget , when you order from the factory you will always get a discount. Its called option # 1 . This is a better deal for you vs picking one off the lot. Always ask the sales guy/girl what the difference is with regards to this little known fact.
Really...wow, I was not aware of that!
Gotta keep that in mind when the time comes. :)
 

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I have ordered several times before. and have been in contact with the General Manager of my local Chevy Dealer. I have been told it's going to depend on GM and the way they release the camaro. It's should be a 100K a year production, if it's released correctly and in high volume to meet the need from the start, your looking at MSRP. (NO Deals on first year). If GM does there normal release, there won't be enough to meet demands at first so dealers will hold out an "LOA" on the car, which allows them to charge from 5k to 10k over MSRP. It all depends on GM+Your Area Dealer=Purchase Price.
Hope this helped...........
 

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So i wonder if you can order 1 and have it sent to a dealership that is kind of no name in a small town and then maybe beat the dealer markups??? hmmmm???
 
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