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I just emailed a Dealer in LA. I saw a add for a Camaro 1LT that they were selling $9k over msrp for $35k....So I emailed him to see if he would sale it at MSRP and look how rude and unprofessional this guy is, the email gets funny. And you have to start at the bottom of the email.



Seriously you are ridiculous, there are SO many dealers selling at MSRP price and below and accepting discounts....I am going to post this on all the Camaro Forums, you are going to be the laughingstock for awhile. I am in contact with a dealer in Florida that said they can order me one and sale at MSRP. Since you are still so hard headed and don't believe me. Here is an example I found in about 20 seconds buy going online and finding dealers being honest and selling at a honest price.

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp;?tracktype=newcc&searchType=49&pageNumber=0&numResultsPerPage=50&largeNumResultsPerPage=0&sortorder=descending&sortfield=PRICE+descending,DISTANCE+ascending&certifiedOnly=false&criteria=K-|E-|M-_9_|B-30000|D-_78_|N-Y|R-500|I-1,7|P-PRICE+descending,DISTANCE+ascending|Q-descending|Z-32225&aff=national&paId=314258412&recnum=22&leadExists=true

Thank you,

John



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:57 AM
To: Rumbach, John (USPC.PCS&T.Jacksonville)
Subject: Re: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 1LT - $35220 (Thibodaux, Louisiana)


First of all if u can buy one for that price go ahead. I am at 5 auctions a week. I'm sure u never been to a auction the camero is the hottest thing on the market my particular car is worth 31700 to a chevy dealer. So I suggest u take ur paperwork u have and try to go by one if u can buy one for whatever price u said I will give u 30000 a piece for them so go get as many as u can.
I'm not being smart but when someone offers 9k less for a car than I'm asking its a slap in the face. So I don't appreciate ur offer because u don't know what u r talking about.
Good luck on ur camero buying experience but u have no idea what u r talking about.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



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From: "Rumbach, John (USPC.PCS&T.Jacksonville)"
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:45:42 -0400
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 1LT - $35220 (Thibodaux, Louisiana)


HAHA wow are suppose to be professional? Is this how you talk to your customers??

I was asking a simple question buddy. So maybe I should forward this to your Manager, and you should go through training again!

I guarantee you I know WAY more than you about the Camaro than your. Right now I am on the Chevrolet website and built the Camaro the exact way and options you have and it came to $26,570 with the sunroof and all. That is the true MSRP

So actually you might need to wake up and get out of your little fantasy world. And quit charging $5k over MSRP. If you don't believe me then go to and tell me if I am wrong!

http://microsite.chevrolet.com/allnewcamaro/#camaro=build-your-own









-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:37 AM
To: Rumbach, John (USPC.PCS&T.Jacksonville)
Subject: Re: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 1LT - $35220 (Thibodaux, Louisiana)


** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html


U need to educate urself on what the market is on these cars. If I wanted to wholesale it I have a chevy dealer that will give 31700. So u must be lost in some world that u know nothing about
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



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From: "Rumbach, John (USPC.PCS&T.Jacksonville)"
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:33:53 -0400
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: 2010 Chevrolet Camaro 1LT - $35220 (Thibodaux, Louisiana)


Hey,

I see you are charging way over MSRP.

I would love to buy it for the MSRP which is less than $26k, would you sale it at this price?

Thank you,

John [/B]
 

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Seriously, this is a forum, not a English class. Why do people on forums have to complain about this. I have seen much worse on forums.
 

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Seriously, this is a forum, not a English class. Why do people on forums have to complain about this. I have seen much worse on forums.
Because you didn't type this out on a forum, you did it in an email, a semi-formal means of business communications :confused:
 

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this makes me laugh...

From dealer...."U need to educate urself"

As long as people are willing to keep paying over MSRP...dealers will keep marking up.
 

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Well if you read my first email to him. It was proper English and decent grammar. Maybe B+ worthy. His reply to me was all ghetto, so I got a little ghetto back with him. So you see how it is.
 

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I serously wonder if his Sales Manger at this dealership

is aware of this ridiculous level of customer service. I would venture to guess this sales person is a young man....based on his texting style grammer with the "U" instead of "you" etc. In my own experience, when shopping for a new camaro, I went back to the dealer I had bought my last 4 cars from. He was honest and staightforward and told me that this particular dealership was charging 5k over MSRP. He was apologetic and totally professional and wished me luck in finding a great deal out there. Great experience. I would deal with him again in a heartbeat if he had what i wanted. I choose to find a dealership that was offering MSRP. I am hopeful the dealership will hold to their word. Not all car dealerships and salesmen are aweful. We have a couple on this site that are fine examples of straight up people. Guess it pays to educate yourself and shop around. If you are purchasing something over 25K+ i think one should expect good customer service. That salesman also represents the dealership that most likely will be your service center.....RUN if you get treated like this, so poorly.
 

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goduke10,

POWERFREAK is right. As long as people keep buying them at those prices, the dealers will continue to demand that type of pricing. I'd say keep shopping around to find the price you're willing to pay. Arguing with those guys is very futile. Also, being a Black American, I am a little wary of the "ghetto" comment. His reply was brash, in poor taste and poor English structure. Good luck to you in your endeavors! :)
 

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If he is offering you to buy yours for $30,000 i would take him up on his offer. If you sell him enough you can pay cash for your Camaro :lol:
 

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If he is offering you to buy yours for $30,000 i would take him up on his offer. If you sell him enough you can pay cash for your Camaro :lol:
I was totally thinking the same thing. Because there are several 1LT's on Autotrader.com that are selling from $25k - $27k.
 

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I'd forward his email's off to the dealership management. One thing I can't stand at work is unprofessional writing. It is one thing to text like that to friends or on a forum, another thing to write like that to a customer. I'm talking both about tone and how it was written.

Heck at one point on the team I used to supervise I had one employee who wrote so badly that anything going outside the team had to be reviewed by myself or my manager. Of course he didn't last too long before getting fired.
 

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It sounds like he isnt a GM certified Dealer.. Like he is one of those whole sale dealers.. goes to auction finds cars and resales them at marked up prices..
What Gm dealer would by a new camaro from joe shmo, and give him top dollar for it...
HA.. They would be going for BB value- and a couple of grand less, so THEY could resale it and make a profit..
 

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I have said this many times before...we need to show these dealers that "WE" are in charge of what "WE" purchase and "WE" will not take thier garbage. If you want me to buy a car from you...take care of me as a customer. Besides the dealer I goto all the time, there are several sponsors on this site that do, and will take very good care of you.
 

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It's amazing what some of these moronic dealers think and say. It's one thing to politely claim that the market is strong, and we've got to take advantage right now...Respectful and will keep you coming back. Unfortunately, I've dealt with plenty of morons like this with Z06s and then the Camaro. I actually paid slightly over MSRP - something I had NEVER done in the past - because this small town dealer was honest, respectful and wanted to earn my business...
 
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