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Not that simple, he has FACTS in his documentaries, if you choose to believe him or not that's up to you. I'm not saying to believe everything he says but his videos do stir the pot, and that's what we need in this country because to many people are comfortable with things being messed up and prefer to be idle instead of changing things. There are alot of things wrong with our health care system, and you can't deny that. My mom is an RN in the ER @ Harbor/UCLA medical center and even she agrees the system is screwed up. I think alot of people just think it's anti-patriotic to think that the U.S. is NOT perfect, but it isn't...I think it's our duty as American Citizens to stand up and fix problems and corruption within' the system.
 

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IMO he is an idiot.
 

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Michael more is an idiot his movies have maybe one factual element per sentence and he even admits this. His favorite theme in most of his movies is to imply ideas without actually saying them therefore they seem like fact to some and fiction to others when in reality he takes the facts and adds fiction with them through clever wording exactly like the 911 movie. Most of the things people got out of the movie he never actually said directly rather he took a and added c and most read it as abc.
 

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Michael more is an idiot his movies have maybe one factual element per sentence and he even admits this. His favorite theme in most of his movies is to imply ideas without actually saying them therefore they seem like fact to some and fiction to others when in reality he takes the facts and adds fiction with them through clever wording exactly like the 911 movie. Most of the things people got out of the movie he never actually said directly rather he took a and added c and most read it as abc.
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I prefer privatized healthcare. Anyone with a decent job can get some form of health insurance. And if not, semi-decent health insurance is pretty affordable. And the private sector ALWAYS does better than anything government-run. And I rather pay for superior care than get free "meh" care. I would have to wait like 2 months to have my gallbladder taken out if I lived in Canada, for example. Wait lists ftl.



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Well not the video but next best thing:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3602626&page=1

In every area of our economy, when people compete for your business, consumers win. Prices drop and quality improves. And now there's good news: A little competition has begun to improve health care.

There are some doctors' waiting rooms in America that are elegant … and open on Saturdays. Some doctors even take e-mail from patients and give out their cell phone numbers.

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Of course, those doctors usually work in fields that insurance rarely covers, like laser eye surgery and cosmetic surgery.

Dr. Brian Bonanni is a laser eye surgeon who reshapes eyes so that people can see without glasses. He knows he has to please his patients -- not some insurance company or the government -- because he is paid by his patients.

"I need to be available 24 hours a day," Bonanni said. "I want to be there when a patient has questions, and I want to be reachable."

Bonanni's patients often meet with several doctors before deciding on a surgeon, and they demand to know exactly what it will cost.


Competitive Prices
"I can't get away with not telling the patient how much exactly it's going to cost. No one would put up with it," Bonanni said. "And the difference of a hundred dollars sometimes makes their decision for them."

Laser eye surgeons have to compete for their patients' business. And a result of that competition is lower prices.

"In every other field of medicine, the price is going up faster than consumer prices in general," said Dr. John Goodman, president of the National Center for Policy Analysis.

"[But] the price of Lasik surgery, on average, has gone down by 30 percent."

Prices dropped even though doctors pay for advertising. And while the procedure got cheaper, it also got better.

"When the lasers first came out, all they could treat was nearsightedness," Bonanni said. "[Today] the lasers are faster, more precise."

We see better quality, and lower prices in medical fields where most people pay for care themselves -- cosmetic surgery is another example. The average price of cosmetic procedures has fallen, because doctors compete for patients' business, and if doctors want to get repeat business, they have to offer patients a good deal. It's what happens when doctors respond to you, not your insurance company or the government. And it's happening now, and not just with elective surgery. We're starting to see providers offer everyday health care even in … shopping centers.


Cheap, Convenient Care
A new kind of medical clinic, staffed by nurse practitioners, is popping up in stores like Wal-Mart, in pharmacies and grocery stores. They offer people with sore throats and ear infections convenient care … cheap. Most everything costs $59 or less.

But how can they make money charging so little?

"They're figuring how to do something faster, better, cheaper," said Grace-Marie Turner of the Galen Institute. "They're responding to consumer demand, because they see that they might make some money on this. Profit! And, look who's winning. Moms and dads and kids. Because they now have … easy access to routine health care."

And some doctors are finding that dealing directly with patients changes their practice for the better.

Dr. Robert Berry had enough of the hassles of insurance companies and Medicare and Medicaid, so he decided to stop taking insurance. Instead, he offers his patients a price list, with low prices. How often have you seen that in a doctor's office? With visits often as low as $40, it's hard to see how he makes any money off it.

But Berry said, "Last year I made about the average of what a primary care physician makes in this country."


Competition, Choice, Power
Berry said eliminating insurance paperwork saves him time and money.

"I don't have to hire billers. I don't have to fight the insurance companies to get the money."

And that lets him keep his prices low, which saves money for his mostly uninsured patients. Knowing that his patients pay with their own money, Berry works with them, trying to find ways to save them money.

"They're afraid. They don't know how much it's going to cost," Berry said. "So I can tell them, OK, you know, you have heartburn. Let's start out with generic Zantac, which costs around five dollars a month. But [they say] 'I see Nexium on TV, I see Prevacid.' Yeah, but that costs about $130 a month. They're great medicines, but why don't you try this one first and see if it works."

And sometimes, he said, the $4 pill at Wal-Mart is just as good as the $100 pill.

So when consumers pay for things themselves, saving insurance for the big stuff, doctors deal directly with customers directly and compete by posting prices and working to keep them low.

That way, instead of having governments or insurance companies make decisions for consumers, consumers decide for themselves. Competition gives consumers more choices. And choice gives them power.
 

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I like the upfront price list for services that doctor has.

Goverment run health care would be a disaster imo. If you ever have to go to anything goverment run you know how painfully slow it is.
 

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The surgeon I went to didn't tell me how much it would cost..he said he would have to refer me to his business manager. And that is all I heard about that.
I heard from a canadian that the doctors up there, for the most part, don't really care about the patients. The ones in the US atleast pretend to ;).
And if you have ever seen anything ran by the US gov't..it's normally in a sad state of disrepair and just totally bad.



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I just noticed on that last link at the top right hand corner it has several videos which I think is each section of the whole show.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3602579&page=1



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In the first video "Is US healthcare a mess" it talks about GM then shows a car rolling down a assbley line. The car is a wagon. What car is that? It is a 2:36 into the clip.
 
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