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Buy them while you can. The good thing in the bill is it stops California from dictating higher standards than the nation.

http://www.autobloggreen.com/2007/1...rs-reach-deal-on-new-fuel-economy-standard-v/

Rep. John Dingell (D-MI) reached a deal late Friday night with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA MI) on a compromise bill to raise fuel economy standards for new cars and trucks to 25 35 mpg 2020. As reported earlier this week, the same threshold would be maintained that was in the Senate bill passed last June. The biggest differences from the earlier Senate bill are the retention of separate standards for cars and trucks as well as calculating import and domestic fleet averages separately.

The last remaining issue that Dingell was pushing for was to clarify the responsibilities of EPA and NHTSA to ensure that the rules they establish are not in conflict with each other. Apparently this was intended to prevent the EPA from allowing California to set CO2 limits that would in effect create mileage standards higher than those set by congress and NHTSA. Pelosi refused to give in on that issue and it was ultimately left out of the bill.

Biofuels did make it into the 1,000-page bill however. Car-makers will continue to get credit for building and selling flex-fuel vehicles even though availability and use of such fuels is still very limited. Biofuel producers also got a break with a provision that would require at least 20.5 billion gallons of biofuel (ethanol or diesel) to be blended into other fuels by 2015. A quarter of that amount will be required to come from non-food sources such as cellulosic ethanol or algae biodiesel. Beyond 2015 the biofuel requirement would be indexed based on increased production capacity.

The plan now is to put the bill to a vote in the House by Wednesday of next week. Senate negotiators were also involved in the discussions and the identical bill will be voted on in the Senate after the House passes it. This will avoid additional delays to get the bills matched up in conference committee afterward. Democratic leaders hope to send the bill to the President before the end of the year.

[Source: Detroit News, Automotive News - Sub. req'd]
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VETO! VETO! VETO! :D

Seriously, the government needs to stay the heck out of the car business.
Let the consumer buy what he wants to buy, not what the government tells him he can buy!

Amen!!

25 35 shouldnt be that hard to get anyway. The bill is just a ploy for politicians to use on the campaing trail. As soon as a hard provision in the thing (such as a deadline) they will quietly repeal it and go on about thier buisness (not ours).
 

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I do like the part that Comi-fornia wont be setting their own standards. Who the F%ck let them do that in the first place?

I'm not against them deciding not to buy cars though. They can all walk, use rickshaws or ride donkeys for all I care. I just don't want them deciding what I drive.
 

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Big Brother wants to control everything. I just hope a Democrat doesn't get elected into the Presidency, Democrats are generally for more government control...which is a bad thing. They already have their hand in my wallet, keep the other hand out of everything else! :x
I disagree...... Republicans are killing this country. The US's future is f***ed unless we get a democrat back in office.
 

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I disagree...... Republicans are killing this country. The US's future is f***ed unless we get a democrat back in office.
Not to get into polititcs but...+1, I agree.;) In truth, Power-hungry fools are killing this country...it just so happens they seem to have more of a presence in the Republican side of politics.:lol:

And, I'm just curious - how is this foreshadowing the demise of Muscle cars?:confused:
 

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And, I'm just curious - how is this foreshadowing the demise of Muscle cars?:confused:
Horsepower and gas mileage generally don't go hand-in-hand.
Look at what happened in the 70s.
Granted, technology now is pretty advanced, but there's still only so much you can do.
Recent victims:
2004-2006 GTO: gas guzzler tax of $1300
2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8: gas guzzler tax of $2100

Check public record on what political candidates car companies support.
From 1995-2000, the top 15 contributions from the auto industry to political campaigns totaled almost $4 Million.
90% of those contributions were to Republican candidates.
(table 3 on this link: http://www.citizen.org/congress/campaign/special_interest/articles.cfm?ID=5730)
Those numbers are several years old, but the trend is still the same.
 
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