[DallasMike]

Dude, come on, I was waiting to hear his rebuttals on the Rx thread. Now you're gonna scare him off the forum for good haha.

Sorry

After visiting Mike, I gotta say my money's on Team Whiteside.

:thumbsup:

So I guess I showed my true colors by telling the truth?

So I show up and everything goes quiet?

 

[GretchenGotGrowl]

Sorry



:thumbsup:






So I show up and everything goes quiet?

Yeah Mike, not much can be said after a post like that.


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[SIXJAK]

I just want to point out that I dropped my 04 Silverado RCSB 4.8 5MT off at Whiteside Customs on February 2nd the day before the Super Bowl to have them install a Maggie TVS 1900, long tube headers, cat delete Y/midpipe as well as paint and install street scene roll pan. I picked it up exactly one week later and drove it home to MO from Dallas. No issues and have not had any issues since save one. CEL came on after I filled it up with some crappy 93 with ethanol. Cleared it and it came back on a few hundred miles later put ethanol free in and on the way to O'Reilly's to scan it, the CEL turned off and has not been back on since. I gained 137RWHP and 201RWTQ running 6#'s of boost on their dyno. This shop does solid work and does not take 4-7 mos to knock out a FI build.
That's how a normal speed shop operates.


True Colors.

 

[Envy]

Okay...I'm kinda curious now...how many successful FI projects have you completed on the V6 Camaro Mike?

 

[DallasMike]

Okay...I'm kinda curious now...how many successful FI projects have you completed on the V6 Camaro Mike?

Sadly project SYN R G was the only v6 we ever attempted with FI. we spent 5000 dollars having custom rods and pistons made for the motor. In all we spent close to 50,000 on that car only to get a turbo kit that blew so much oil in went through a quart of oil in 5 miles. And no that's not a typo. I install roughly 15-25 superchargers on cars a year. From Magnuson, pro charger, vortech, you name it. I've also done several twin turbo systems including one of my old personal builds. I had a TT gto making 533/517 on a little ole stock bottom end ls1. That "kit" that Tracy installed on SYN R G was the worst piece of craftsmanship I have ever seen. I've been in this business for nearly 15 years. I've been through all the early years of ls1 development when we had to "make things work". I've seen some of the worst work I thought I'd ever see in those days until I saw Tracy's kit.

So the question is why are we just now speaking out. When we started project SYN r g we were a young shop. Even though I personally wasn't new to the performance world, no one knew who whiteside customs was. I was afraid people would look directly at me as a failure. So I just kept quiet. At the time everyone thought Tracy was a god and the king of v6 FI. And no one could say anything against him. The few people who contacted us about FI on the v6 we tried to warn them in very nice ways about Tracy. If we could save anyone the heartache we went through and money we lost its worth it.

Now it's been 3 years since we started project SYN R G and frankly all involved have lost interest and we've all moved on to other projects.

So that's what happened. We are now parting out project SYN R G and moving on and hopefully putting all of this behind us. The car runs great without the turbo kit. And it handled bettervthan anything I have ever built. I'll miss the car and wish we could have proven the concept but it just wasn't meant to be I suppose.

Hope that explains it. If anyone has any questions I would be happy to answer.

 

[MrGood]

Mike, on a scale of 1-10 how likely would you be to name Tracy head engineer at your shop? Hahaha

 

[SIXJAK]

Sadly project SYN R G was the only v6 we ever attempted with FI. we spent 5000 dollars having custom rods and pistons made for the motor. In all we spent close to 50,000 on that car only to get a turbo kit that blew so much oil in went through a quart of oil in 5 miles. And no that's not a typo. I install roughly 15-25 superchargers on cars a year. From Magnuson, pro charger, vortech, you name it. I've also done several twin turbo systems including one of my old personal builds. I had a TT gto making 533/517 on a little ole stock bottom end ls1. That "kit" that Tracy installed on SYN R G was the worst piece of craftsmanship I have ever seen. I've been in this business for nearly 15 years. I've been through all the early years of ls1 development when we had to "make things work". I've seen some of the worst work I thought I'd ever see in those days until I saw Tracy's kit.

So the question is why are we just now speaking out. When we started project SYN r g we were a young shop. Even though I personally wasn't new to the performance world, no one knew who whiteside customs was. I was afraid people would look directly at me as a failure. So I just kept quiet. At the time everyone thought Tracy was a god and the king of v6 FI. And no one could say anything against him. The few people who contacted us about FI on the v6 we tried to warn them in very nice ways about Tracy. If we could save anyone the heartache we went through and money we lost its worth it.

Now it's been 3 years since we started project SYN R G and frankly all involved have lost interest and we've all moved on to other projects.

So that's what happened. We are now parting out project SYN R G and moving on and hopefully putting all of this behind us. The car runs great without the turbo kit. And it handled bettervthan anything I have ever built. I'll miss the car and wish we could have proven the concept but it just wasn't meant to be I suppose.

Hope that explains it. If anyone has any questions I would be happy to answer.

True colors.

 

[Can't_C_Me]

Wait until I post my nightmare about Tracy. With photos!

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[Nutbutt]

It is sad that this many people had to lose so much before all this started to come out.

 

[MrGood]

It is sad that this many people had to lose so much before all this started to come out.

Isn't it though?

 

[Strick]

And part of the blame can be pointed right at C5. When ever anyone mentioned anything negative C5 would either remove the post of ban people. Brilliant!!!!

 

[MrGood]

And part of the blame can be pointed right at C5. When ever anyone mentioned anything negative C5 would either remove the post of ban people. Brilliant!!!!

I'll drink to that.

 

[BaylorCamaro]

And part of the blame can be pointed right at C5. When ever anyone mentioned anything negative C5 would either remove the post of ban people. Brilliant!!!!

Yup, political red tape :angry:

 

[Strick]

Sponsor $$$$.

 

[Make It Rain]

I tired warning people last year about Tracy. I guess his PM's were convincing, and people didn't believe me. Tracy lied last summer and said his competitors at that time were blowing up cars. I am glad everyone knows about him now!

He is still on the Bowtie Camaro and Cadillac forums spreading lies though.

 

[MrGood]

I tired warning people last year about Tracy. I guess his PM's were convincing, and people didn't believe me. Tracy lied last summer and said his competitors at that time were blowing up cars. I am glad everyone knows about him now!

He is still on the Bowtie Camaro and Cadillac forums spreading lies though.

Not only blowing them up but catching fire and killing people and he has the "links to prove it"

 

[Make It Rain]

Not only blowing them up but catching fire and killing people and he has the "links to prove it"

I would think that the company he says is blowing up cars and killing people would have a great "libel & slander" lawsuit against him! LOL!

 

[StreetSS]

And part of the blame can be pointed right at C5. When ever anyone mentioned anything negative C5 would either remove the post of ban people. Brilliant!!!!

Any others on there we should know the truth about?

 

[SIXJAK]

And part of the blame can be pointed right at C5. When ever anyone mentioned anything negative C5 would either remove the post of ban people. Brilliant!!!!

I never had any issues on c5 until I purchased an RX SC kit. It sucked and I tried to say something and was silenced. Kinda goofy but hey that seems to be the way they were doing it. I know they don't want the drama but the culprit was the guy they were taking money from all along.

 

[DallasMike]

I never had any issues on c5 until I purchased an RX SC kit. It sucked and I tried to say something and was silenced. Kinda goofy but hey that seems to be the way they were doing it. I know they don't want the drama but the culprit was the guy they were taking money from all along.

All the moderators on camaro 5 have been bought. It's a good ole boys club. Whetherm it's with free or discounted parts or just preferential treatment at events and what not. That's just how the auto industry is. Everyone knows its not what you know but who you know. It's just much much more so in the auto industry. And then you have forums where it's all about the clique mentality. Everybody wants to be one of the cool kids. And you can't say anything about someone who is viewed as one of the in crowd.