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sorry guys. It's the Detroit auto show. I can't help posting stuff.lol

The ecoboost ford flex gets 22 MPG with a decidedly high-for-it's-class 355 horsepower.

355 horsepower (@ 5,700 rpm) and 350 lb-ft of torque (@ 3,500 rpm).


Not to mention, the new Taurus is bound to have the same specs:


Kinda makes the Impala look outdated (but any car makes the Impala look outdated.:lol:)
 

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This is why the Impala needs to be the G8 twin. Does Pontiac even need to continue to exist if we have an Impala like that?
No not really, but I like totally love Pontiac. I know they can make good cars, but dammit they need to start doing so. They started with the G8. Now it'll be canceled in a few years. The G8ST hasn't even made it to the market and it's dead already. (it not even doa because it didn't even arrive) the G6 isn't that bad looking, but the looks are dated and the interior feels like they melted an 80's IBM computer. and spread it all over the dash. The Vibe is a toyota. the G3 is a daewoo, and the Torrent is a frickin rebadged equinox. The G5 is a somewhat snappier Cobalt, but doesn't have the GXP powertrain cribbed from the SS Cobalt, so it's useless. (no offense Lu :lol:.) what happened to 'we build excitement?' All you guys got is the Solstice, and that needs a new top, new interior, and fresher looks. I think they need to update the Solstice, bring in a G8 based on the Caddy CTS (then they can charge premium for a V6) in wagon and sedan form, of course a firebird/trans am, a small hot hatch and sedan similar to the astra but designed in America and based on the Cruze platform, and since the Insignia is coming over to America as a Buick Regal next year, I'd say base a G6 off of the Malibu Platform, but designed in America without any similarities to the cars that share the same platform.

if they do that, then maybe they'll last a couple more years.
 

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No not really, but I like totally love Pontiac. I know they can make good cars, but dammit they need to start doing so. They started with the G8. Now it'll be canceled in a few years. The G8ST hasn't even made it to the market and it's dead already. (it not even doa because it didn't even arrive) the G6 isn't that bad looking, but the looks are dated and the interior feels like they melted an 80's IBM computer. and spread it all over the dash. The Vibe is a toyota. the G3 is a daewoo, and the Torrent is a frickin rebadged equinox. The G5 is a somewhat snappier Cobalt, but doesn't have the GXP powertrain cribbed from the SS Cobalt, so it's useless. (no offense Lu :lol:.) what happened to 'we build excitement?' All you guys got is the Solstice, and that needs a new top, new interior, and fresher looks. I think they need to update the Solstice, bring in a G8 based on the Caddy CTS (then they can charge premium for a V6) in wagon and sedan form, of course a firebird/trans am, a small hot hatch and sedan similar to the astra but designed in America and based on the Cruze platform, and since the Insignia is coming over to America as a Buick Regal next year, I'd say base a G6 off of the Malibu Platform, but designed in America without any similarities to the cars that share the same platform.

if they do that, then maybe they'll last a couple more years.
G5 is anything but useless. It has option combos that aren't available in a Cobalt.
And the base has MUCH more standard than the Cobalt base..while still allowing options you can't get on Cobalt trims.



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G5 is anything but useless. It has option combos that aren't available in a Cobalt.
And the base has MUCH more standard than the Cobalt base..while still allowing options you can't get on Cobalt trims.
This has gone way off topic. We could start a new thread about why Pontiac has made itself obsolete if anyone desires. Keep in mind that I own 2 Pontiacs and I still feel its time has come.
 

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